From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com>
Cc: Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] make-wifi-fast 3 proposal help?
Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2024 17:16:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw7e3mdVzx-cH1mAogZ0zmb_rChkqEY5=fpOmoG=X7kZnw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHb6LvrSrVjxhjjjLQpDv1EvJ3jZDP+k6yt5rWMe5L_b4Vn0BA@mail.gmail.com>
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4223 bytes --]
As I am doing, also, would be to submit to a grant process from somewhere -
ardc is who I am targeting primarily with my proposal, but nlnet has been a
consistent funder, and (sometimes), comcast. I keep hoping the telecom
infrastructure project gains clue with their openwifi group - but far too
few overall can understand the vision you have. I was hoping that now that
enough people knew that starlink had gone fq_codel that there would be a
rush to implement - but noooooo....
and you want to go waaaay beyond that. I think talking about where you want
to go in front of 802.11 would be a great place to start. I was planning on
attending netdevconf in san jose in mid july, the next 802.11 wg meeting is
in montreal
https://web.cvent.com/event/64f6931c-b20d-44af-a54e-4830fa2f7097/summary
On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 5:11 PM Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com> wrote:
> I'm interested in group designing an open API or equivalent over a high
> speed serial/digital interface to drive a remote Wi-Fi lower MAC, digital
> PHY, analog PHY, CMOS radio(s) and front end modules. The upper MAC would
> reside in the fronthaul concentrator and be remote, supporting up to 48 MAC
> lowers. Hopefully scale to maybe to higher. Basically, Wi-Fi goes point to
> point into the fronthaul concentrator, i.e. following the evolution of
> ethernet switching but without the CAT 5 for the final leash.
>
> The L2TPv3 w/pseudowires used for eCRPI are an analogy. So is DAA of cable
> plant OSP.
>
> Assume the seriali interface speed is a minimum of 10Gb/s but will go to
> 100Gb/s and then likely to 800b/s. All at very low power and guiding the
> photons to/from their destinations with last meter wireless.
>
> WiFi control and 802.11 packets would be carried over this interface.
>
> Can't be a NIC/sun workstation model on these remote radio heads requiring
> expensive CPUs and way too much power. This will also isolate WiFi radios
> from the SoCs and the internal switches, typically found in todays' APs,
> which is a bit of a Frankenstein design the industry has adopted for some
> unknown reasons.
>
> Bob
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 4:45 PM Dave Taht via Make-wifi-fast <
> make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>> There is HUGE NSF grant coming available concerning wifi, and I was also
>> thinking that applying to ardc might be an option.
>>
>> Does anyone here still care enough about wifi to want to participate? In
>> my case I would like to gear up mainly to get into and stay
>> in the wifi8 standardization process in the IEEE, although I am surfacing
>> to fix some bugs and try to make improvements in the mt79 chipset which is
>> thus far, pretty amazing. I am really pleased with OpenWrt on this chip, so
>> far. An OpenWrt one should be arriving any day....
>>
>> Anyway, a start at a proposal for ardc is here:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x2HBYmSJbMoVMbLzKgkOVSvMnIFZdJQE823Jlg0mfX0/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>> --
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFWSyMp3xg&t=1098s Waves Podcast
>> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
>> _______________________________________________
>> Make-wifi-fast mailing list
>> Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast
>
>
> This electronic communication and the information and any files
> transmitted with it, or attached to it, are confidential and are intended
> solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and
> may contain information that is confidential, legally privileged, protected
> by privacy laws, or otherwise restricted from disclosure to anyone else. If
> you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering
> the e-mail to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use,
> copying, distributing, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of
> this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error,
> please return the e-mail to the sender, delete it from your computer, and
> destroy any printed copy of it.
--
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFWSyMp3xg&t=1098s Waves Podcast
Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 5838 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-03 0:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-02 23:45 Dave Taht
2024-06-03 0:11 ` Bob McMahon
2024-06-03 0:16 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2024-06-03 16:47 ` Bob McMahon
2024-06-03 16:55 ` David Lang
2024-06-03 17:21 ` Bob McMahon
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
List information: https://lists.bufferbloat.net/postorius/lists/make-wifi-fast.lists.bufferbloat.net/
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to='CAA93jw7e3mdVzx-cH1mAogZ0zmb_rChkqEY5=fpOmoG=X7kZnw@mail.gmail.com' \
--to=dave.taht@gmail.com \
--cc=bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com \
--cc=make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox