From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf0-x22a.google.com (mail-lf0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11AE63B25D; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 15:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id y84so95021860lfc.0; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:12:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Ab/qETSu2Z8D5jq5qAxvKD0nfPYdWh4731/BZzC65z8=; b=BaiRf4+Tdg0oONM80Isrv0cxiPvBAbna1T5JBgc/1QWqPmgv7ABZpm5dfaKsgzlruG u07bcFHxaLQCP0Z1y4dx7sN1utlR7cehKQvNKXJT5Vtj/Wx++xaGOchQjWa5CndFQl81 AJxuLi/9Avrn/cjGVn4EmsbWZ4/36qA6sd+WWeAtxIPp2bKyGHvl/6dd+wqA/vDrwbrw l2LHGKLzDquerar0J2qUGvq8jMTElOHHGIFaC9l+QJBS/ryGP/N10f3Vq+66sEvrLkGq spgFDU/AXzREziqxSBQPRmw/5yKfK/8YRcgHrzibkuQmCwi+QXH/vvJEcDkhmykluCCe eXIA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Ab/qETSu2Z8D5jq5qAxvKD0nfPYdWh4731/BZzC65z8=; b=I2HtU4H9Y8nwo4rbrFG40IxueTFPuUOCUMW1L/c9xjGbgzXsmiAXi1Af1s9zJ6b7KM ebrSJDInaHiGZJsTf/6o4Qc67Hf/eTWMhiGPJZJ89DyBChTmPCb68xAjwx9EgUqDdhFU 4iilupzKW5oVgoVGdsNtNbqcZ1Ptpn8LkcAtij8JwE0K3QaNrKsm2GKM282kId0g/w1U CFs1uQ5EwhUWup1aEqKeEm1QJyCNdvtRGbrdgI6B2khk4zM8ybDbhvMJcLhG3vYqBH5V MZfyYn2SP05m8lgJzNYNoZK/gOmrrAeS37UtU+qFbvVnG/JKYSP2jQUZP+6dK31irWFZ qUZQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FU20BObCtdPGd1kKmR9TFeiZLJ6QSMHDqYg2zTm2ZFirPXBBwdzkeyELJo1A7Sdtmz3L7l54WapAAUJ/g== X-Received: by 10.25.205.12 with SMTP id d12mr6171191lfg.128.1461870777857; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:12:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.24.42 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:12:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87shy5k1hb.wl-jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> References: <1461849006.60252745@apps.rackspace.com> <87oa8tyhug.wl-jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> <878tzx4zno.fsf@toke.dk> <4F01E09C-FE7E-4ADA-A142-656969C1A3CC@gmx.de> <87shy5k1hb.wl-jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> From: Henning Rogge Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 21:12:28 +0200 Message-ID: To: Juliusz Chroboczek Cc: moeller0 , make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, "babel-users@lists.alioth.debian.org" , "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Babel-users] [Cerowrt-devel] perverse powersave bug with sta/ap mode X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 19:12:59 -0000 I must admit I have been thinking about switching off Duplicate Address Detection for mesh interfaces automatically... it makes not much sense on non-transitive interfaces anyways. Henning On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> I believe the openwrt developers are thinking a long similar lines, see e.g. https://lists.openwrt.org/pipermail/openwrt-devel/2015-June/033398.html > > If I read this message right, what Luessing is doing are some special-case > hacks to reduce the number of ND multicasts. He's not attempting a general > solution for multicast. > > Which, unfortunately, is quite typical. (BATMAN, the routing protocol > that Luessing et al develop, has a number of special-case hacks for ARP > and ND, probably also DHCPv4.) > > -- Juliusz > > _______________________________________________ > Babel-users mailing list > Babel-users@lists.alioth.debian.org > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/babel-users