A challenge we test guys have is providing systems and information that are  "immediately actionable" by engineers. In that context, if we can provide test rigs that support sufficient reproducibilty then engineers can use "trial and error" which is typically the approach used in complex systems that are programmable, particularly systems that are non-linear and have non parametric distributions in their metrics.  Just being able to reproduce non-parametric distributions is quite an achievement. But that's not typically good enough as one has to prove the non-parametric distributions are self similar. And then we can get thousands or more of them. (The kolmogorov-smirnov helps with this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolmogorov%E2%80%93Smirnov_test  I would say, "Thank God for computers" but God didn't build computers. A bunch of predecessors did so "Thank God for them")

All of this requires a lot of "computer control" over the "RF channels."

Bob


On Mon, Aug 9, 2021 at 11:06 AM Jon Pike <jonpike54@gmail.com> wrote:
Sidelines guy here, with a half baked suggestion...

I wonder how practical a "Nielson Method" approach might be?  As in, you set up a bunch of routers with internal data gathering and reporting ,  and give them to a few hundred households... 

I can see that to do that would be a not insignificant undertaking itself, as well as managing it...  and you'd never have as much data on what's happening in the houses when X happens as you might like,   but it would beat renting lots of houses.

On Sun, Aug 8, 2021, 9:00 AM <make-wifi-fast-request@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

Our real world test is using a real house that has been rented. Not cheap nor scalable.


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