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From: Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] a cheer up tweet for y'all
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2024 20:41:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHb6Lvoh950KXGL5ns2gtUgTyCGxC4ZOGcCB+HwbtCzdC37vVQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw4JrT8Em+Zy_99f4QEcUuYP9av5C=RX8S7_W5WXtVAK=w@mail.gmail.com>


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What are you expecting from chip makers?  HW ASIC guys are rarely good at
writing sw and not so good at systems either. SW tends to be small, high
velocity teams that make a lot of mistakes through iterations. Some get
addicted to the velocity. ASICs tend to be low thousands of engineers
paying attention to a plethora of details like signal integrity to get a
$30M-50M mask right before spending another $100M+ for a run of millions.
Completely  different operating models. It's like comparing a container
ship to a NASA X-43.

Bob

PS. I think we're missing EDCA analysis which is a BSS manager and AP
thing.  The default values really aren't optimized for anything and just
are example settings. We also need active redundancy. Lots to be done still
from what I can tell.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 9:19 AM Dave Taht via Make-wifi-fast <
make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> https://twitter.com/RubenKelevra/status/1744406747953959140
>
> Thread started here:
>
> https://twitter.com/mtaht/status/1744400465238818929
>
> In retrospect, a lot of this project was fun, and seeing the results
> like this, very satisfying, and I suppose, increasingly satisfying in
> the years to come. But I am still burnt to a crisp about it, and
> intensely frustrated with the behavior of the chipset makers.
>
> --
> 40 years of net history, a couple songs:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9RGX6QFm5E
> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-09  4:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-08 17:19 Dave Taht
2024-01-09  4:41 ` Bob McMahon [this message]
2024-01-09 10:56   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-01-09 11:36     ` Dave Taht
2024-01-09 17:42     ` Bob McMahon
2024-01-10 11:23       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-01-10 13:55         ` XianJun Jiao
2024-01-10 15:47           ` Dave Taht
2024-01-10 18:23         ` Bob McMahon
2024-01-11  9:31           ` Dave Taht
2024-01-11 17:29             ` Bob McMahon

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