From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ej1-x62a.google.com (mail-ej1-x62a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7595E3B29D for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2022 16:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ej1-x62a.google.com with SMTP id kb8so21054375ejc.4 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:30:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=broadcom.com; s=google; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc; bh=ipoYCPfIZNDOXU/bbEBZ55vGrC+kpyGF5FbEN0Uadu4=; b=JZdLg5BmiH/hkqjw+GAkqB7rypalRy52lDRQAbOWPU29fLlh62aQxBiUDflucNOgmV QCRbpb0Oad4TqgJWA2dnMADO9w1mcGeWpI7aSkcE1n7a3eLn9c9ARBOW4AoGOxJ2sqA2 LTbQnR10gtRDvo236sQBy44ZUQ7YgVCk8/HYg= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc; bh=ipoYCPfIZNDOXU/bbEBZ55vGrC+kpyGF5FbEN0Uadu4=; b=N0Ss4OXbhZ7FKJCCsuDwoUWGjy9icvtEy551uC1Ob6sVfqiKO9bFeh2ODIzC6w0cfh ohsx82x1O4r7Aho4ANhjr5omdtlKI6Da4kF5PkyMlOLZhlLVsdWTH1HxKKXPT0w+7U+9 pd7f6F0PlpDwaNzOFeXi8M7Udv3W4Zz3rbw0YQPp/NqiwJoPTv/aiFUNxilsi8EaDLY2 15nBYokaK7Diq/z9wgAkXRIk6LSDDXzChcmawMOiT4k/zuVFcOw1ToxWnxb/nqQVk3ty mPJqD6/RXUdCJDiF0Evp3mPUvfOCMBB+3/Z3O2tsPYkdkEGyLtWMpHg7jkH4EkrVDkNm HNDQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ACgBeo1T9Hear/vOzQDokjIvGE2qt8GYY3X5fCr5t5KC9Ja9XZjnYuWm 4OTbZl7jI2uhNs74+Pmn7hQahvYMQQxZr9iBo0vLh3RSZJ7cQv5VOza9TofkMCijl7EmIZUZnoy DkUDtnFttEojoyqPN/MgdnCsRAShANKc3+r2ZXWMZYQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA6agR6GY0Nl647wGDLAfz9KWPTa+ZNh4ZtkIjToVRgHWmoB75lXWfHWJFThD98j6oDX3OFZwa8BOkPiwB+8pljaXis= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:94c6:b0:730:b3a6:d612 with SMTP id dn6-20020a17090794c600b00730b3a6d612mr15553877ejc.28.1660681817147; Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:30:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8495AC2A-C001-43F4-9AD9-E07A98B704C0@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: <8495AC2A-C001-43F4-9AD9-E07A98B704C0@gmx.de> From: Bob McMahon Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2022 13:30:06 -0700 Message-ID: To: Sebastian Moeller Cc: iPerf User Group , Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="000000000000d1a7ad05e6619d8f" Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] comments on renaming iperf 2 to iperf next generation X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2022 20:30:18 -0000 --000000000000d1a7ad05e6619d8f Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000cc812a05e6619db4" --000000000000cc812a05e6619db4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" How about something like 'Iperf Next Evolution 2022 (iperf2) ' I'm very open to better suggestions. Thanks, Bob On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 1:04 PM Sebastian Moeller wrote: > Ho Bob, > > +1 for renaming; the iperf2 iperf3 things is really confusing for mere end > users. > > However "next generation/NG" is a relative moniker, in a few years NG is > going to be the new normal and hence the name misleading again. > > While somewhat lame, maybe "iperformance" might be better in side stepping > the-bigger-is-better issue when including numbers in the name, or obviously > the correct answer go directly to iperf42 ;) > > Regards > Sebastian > > > > On Aug 16, 2022, at 20:54, Bob McMahon via Make-wifi-fast < > make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > It's unfortunate that numbers have been used in iperf naming. Many think > iperf3 is the next version of iperf (or iperf2.) The number in the name > isn't a version number as iperf 2 and iperf 3 are different code bases, > different developers, have different goals, and don't interoperate. > > > > I'm thinking it's a good time to break this number as part of the name > and only use -v for version numbers. In that context, I'm thinking about > renaming iperf 2 to iperf next generation. The "next generation" implies > that are lots of new features around responsiveness and latency. > > > > This proposed name will be used in web sites, etc. The "iperf2" binary > will still just be iperf. I'm also hoping to get an IANA service as 'iperf' > that way any device that supports the iperf 2.1.8 can also advertise > responsiveness support. > > > > Here is an example and proposed updates to sourceforge. 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How about something like 'Iperf Next Evolution 2022 (iperf2)'
I'm very open to better suggestions.

Thanks,
Bob=

On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 1:04 PM Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote:
Ho Bob,

+1 for renaming; the iperf2 iperf3 things is really confusing for mere end = users.

However "next generation/NG" is a relative moniker, in a few year= s NG is going to be the new normal and hence the name misleading again.

While somewhat lame, maybe "iperformance" might be better in side= stepping the-bigger-is-better issue when including numbers in the name, or= obviously the correct answer go directly to iperf42 ;)

Regards
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Sebastian


> On Aug 16, 2022, at 20:54, Bob McMahon via Make-wifi-fast <make-wif= i-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> It's unfortunate that numbers have been used in iperf naming. Many= think iperf3 is the next version of iperf (or iperf2.)=C2=A0 The number in= the name isn't a version number as iperf 2 and iperf 3 are different c= ode bases, different developers, have different goals, and don't intero= perate.
>
> I'm thinking it's a good time to break this number as part of = the name and only use -v for version numbers. In that context, I'm thin= king about renaming iperf 2 to iperf next generation. The "next genera= tion" implies that are lots of new features around responsiveness and = latency.
>
> This proposed name will be used in web sites, etc. The "iperf2&qu= ot; binary will still just be iperf. I'm also hoping to get an IANA ser= vice as 'iperf' that way any device that supports the iperf 2.1.8 c= an also advertise responsiveness support.
>
> Here is an example and proposed updates to sourceforge. My hope is tha= t this will help clear up the confusion between the two different tools. >
> Comments?
> Bob
>
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