From: Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>, make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Wiring up a wireless testbed
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 18:56:23 -0700 [thread overview]
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Also, Ixia is selling a controllable RF system and it's in early stages.
Maybe contact them to see what the market is driving them to build? My
guess is their asking price will exceed $100K and has huge margins relative
to bill of materials.
One could probably work with telemakus and build a few using their parts
and sell it for cheaper than the IXIA chassis and still make a nice profit.
Bob
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com>
wrote:
> Try telemakus <http://www.telemakus.com/> for variable attenuators and
> variable phase shifters. Aeroflex works well to though are a bit more
> expensive, e.g. the 8331
> <http://weinschel.apitech.com/weinschel/pdfiles/wmod8331.pdf> is an
> example
>
> Power dividers, splitter/combiners and butler matrix devices are sold by
> multiple vendors. Prices will vary. Unfortunately, prices aren't super
> low. But usually it's worth the extra money to get a reliable and
> controllable test bed, particularly when one values their time into the
> equation.
>
> Bob
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk>
> wrote:
>
>> Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com> writes:
>>
>> > A way I think about is to emulate the "system" in both range/power
>> > (attenuation) and in mixing (phase shifts) It's a diagonal matrix for
>> > range feeding into an h-matrix for the mixing. A butler matrix can be
>> used
>> > for the latter if variable phase control isn't required, e.g. you don't
>> > care about spatial stream relative powers.
>> >
>> > On adding energy for "random" noise, some knobs of concern are the
>> energy
>> > detect on the tx and signal floor for the rx. These sources can be fed
>> > into the same h-matrix through their own d-matrices. This won't replace
>> > field tests but helps get closer towards that while providing for repeat
>> > ability.
>>
>> What equipment would it take to do something like that?
>>
>> > Also, equally important by my judgment, though not related to wireless,
>> is
>> > to synchronize the clocks on the PCs. An oven controlled oscillator and
>> > PTP works well towards that goal.
>>
>> Yeah, already using PTP in my testbed; quite essential for measuring
>> one-way delay.
>>
>> -Toke
>>
>
>
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Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-03 22:51 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-03 23:03 ` Aaron Wood
2017-11-03 23:33 ` Bob McMahon
2017-11-04 21:48 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-05 1:50 ` Bob McMahon
2017-11-05 1:56 ` Bob McMahon [this message]
2017-11-05 2:04 ` Bob McMahon
2017-11-04 21:46 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-04 21:56 ` Aaron Wood
2017-11-04 22:08 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-04 7:35 ` Dane Medic
2017-11-04 21:51 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
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2017-11-04 14:05 ` Pete Heist
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