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From: Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>, make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Wiring up a wireless testbed
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2017 18:50:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHb6LvpqrErh3TZuEA+AU3kg7xb39X8=ySGObt_JJu+7Aq8x9w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87efpdn2at.fsf@toke.dk>

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Try telemakus <http://www.telemakus.com/> for variable attenuators and
variable phase shifters.    Aeroflex works well to though are a bit more
expensive, e.g. the 8331
<http://weinschel.apitech.com/weinschel/pdfiles/wmod8331.pdf> is an example

Power dividers, splitter/combiners and butler matrix devices are sold by
multiple vendors.  Prices will vary. Unfortunately, prices aren't super
low.  But usually it's worth the extra money to get a reliable and
controllable test bed, particularly when one values their time into the
equation.

Bob

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:

> Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com> writes:
>
> > A way I think about is to emulate the "system" in both range/power
> > (attenuation) and in mixing (phase shifts)   It's a diagonal matrix for
> > range feeding into an h-matrix for the mixing.  A butler matrix can be
> used
> > for the latter if variable phase control isn't required, e.g. you don't
> > care about spatial stream relative powers.
> >
> > On adding energy for "random" noise, some knobs of concern are the energy
> > detect on the tx and signal floor for the rx.   These sources can be fed
> > into the same h-matrix through their own d-matrices.  This won't replace
> > field tests but helps get closer towards that while providing for repeat
> > ability.
>
> What equipment would it take to do something like that?
>
> > Also, equally important by my judgment, though not related to wireless,
> is
> > to synchronize the clocks on the PCs.  An oven controlled oscillator and
> > PTP works well towards that goal.
>
> Yeah, already using PTP in my testbed; quite essential for measuring
> one-way delay.
>
> -Toke
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-05  1:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-03 22:51 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-03 23:03 ` Aaron Wood
2017-11-03 23:33   ` Bob McMahon
2017-11-04 21:48     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-05  1:50       ` Bob McMahon [this message]
2017-11-05  1:56         ` Bob McMahon
2017-11-05  2:04           ` Bob McMahon
2017-11-04 21:46   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-04 21:56     ` Aaron Wood
2017-11-04 22:08       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-11-04  7:35 ` Dane Medic
2017-11-04 21:51   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found] <mailman.928.1509802426.3609.make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2017-11-04 14:05 ` Pete Heist

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