From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x32d.google.com (mail-wm1-x32d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::32d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D67063B29D for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 15:49:50 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm1-x32d.google.com with SMTP id m24so742346wmc.3 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 12:49:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=broadcom.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7PeDv5fgsAU/MzvhAbCaRLkRRNA0ez1W26HzTYUg510=; b=hLn+TQiUzIH4Ue6R5nTkJF6m043syM48QmA83C7YJoai53n7Evl6ZiSQKGJypI4z1g 6x/OUHlDMux+D6U/TTMwob69gRncpXmfv7NWjtHMPssYeHIuyivfVXeQ3jdAOu1GwZaW gbq7BADObi6EKV2ZuS+6PIYnTu7PSvpyOr7jk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7PeDv5fgsAU/MzvhAbCaRLkRRNA0ez1W26HzTYUg510=; b=QWjTfMQJwGXXmPTjdZtSVV5EiypT1s/pb6Xb3fn1avR5+C9xwdJz34EXpb9SaRgWim 6zAatydooFU5U3xcVTF5W8N7LL8RJvDjSuJivFAMe4vcmWnRqDsdFT99xMf/WSXL1hHw fyK6Rrgsb1FyJcrSNvndnaAmmiGRipCYFCoClQm/bV52D6PP03F8vk2SXsIF9hsoVD3i llAVYhYVJQ3heipFRIUhLD7cfUemPtTn+zdUNJfHu40Tk+jI7n2VjkWe5qpKVGLpNUHY zOttp562wGPCvfnKSxBmE/Tz19zkAgMPzBuZVqIKcGAK3pN2y3/0qkIrV8WrpJ6ZGhL4 HS9w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXJ4ans/EA3lC7mTd81R/RKKnJjH1TOh1w5tgbd5WsBk4cupYtr Ko3QX3Z6ECtlTdh4ttZLG6LpoKaWrpKD5nnwRACVjA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxAVHjZy8BG9LBN0XVKERv5byaeu4s536rH4Ihm3qC3ymkcwNU8qc+0yGKjcJI/BSVrmCxbeJGjjGNj3qspWRo= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:dfd6:: with SMTP id w205mr919804wmg.151.1579898988469; Fri, 24 Jan 2020 12:49:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <69103D46-8F04-4468-802B-142CC2DABF0F@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <69103D46-8F04-4468-802B-142CC2DABF0F@gmail.com> From: Bob McMahon Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 12:49:36 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Wi-Fi 6 - how many of our assumptions does it violate? To: Rich Brown Cc: Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fd6dce059ce8e5c7" X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2020 20:49:51 -0000 --000000000000fd6dce059ce8e5c7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I haven't thought this out but 802.11ax is very different per things like AP based scheduling of transmits (trigger frames), assigning to RU (sub carriers), and per STA tx power control. I think the implementations of these is outside the standard as well. Those writing traffic schedulers will mostly likely be impacted. Bob On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 6:06 AM Rich Brown wrote: > I saw this overview of the now-in-testing Wi-Fi 6 at > https://www.howtogeek.com/368332/wi-fi-6-what%E2%80%99s-different-and-why-it-matters/ > > Its multiple MIMO streams and maybe talking to multiple devices at a time > seem as if they might be outside the assumptions we use. > > > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast --000000000000fd6dce059ce8e5c7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I haven't thought this out but 802.11ax is very differ= ent per things like AP based scheduling=C2=A0of transmits (trigger frames),= assigning to RU (sub carriers), and per STA tx power control.=C2=A0 I thin= k the implementations of these is outside the standard as well.=C2=A0 Those= writing traffic schedulers will mostly likely be impacted.

Bob
On Fr= i, Jan 24, 2020 at 6:06 AM Rich Brown <richb.hanover@gmail.com> wrote:
I saw this overview of the now-in-testing = Wi-Fi 6 at http= s://www.howtogeek.com/368332/wi-fi-6-what%E2%80%99s-different-and-why-it-ma= tters/

Its multiple MIMO streams and maybe talking to multiple devices at a time s= eem as if they might be outside the assumptions we use.


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