From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-oo1-xc34.google.com (mail-oo1-xc34.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::c34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2D23C3CB38 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2024 22:23:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-oo1-xc34.google.com with SMTP id 006d021491bc7-595540eb7a6so335273eaf.0 for ; Mon, 01 Jan 2024 19:23:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=broadcom.com; s=google; t=1704165803; x=1704770603; darn=lists.bufferbloat.net; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=WUgIdMmsJT9secMxmNl1DFbmdCmp+liRXrTOgFd53TM=; b=ey4zt7EuHTiSv3snlSzG3yPcqfMu5krlTf+FqbKFazaYVqGpNSaSTJhc5DTGTR+PD9 g+4M1LttappKHrEKw5ys2tFVqxl5LlGf6sokfUK3+wirC+8mzZ3NFLpC/Mb4W27RmgTK xK+873fd+mEkIjscczeNPpKKlZmt3KqebVEpo= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1704165803; x=1704770603; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=WUgIdMmsJT9secMxmNl1DFbmdCmp+liRXrTOgFd53TM=; b=ZeGn4II1KT8rqjltKwJ6K7h5u4ytjF2B8oR4QQTgmx3BT0v8KF0gHEsLsKevvQm/64 tZD+VMXqiQ2jY/0NSIRjUEPN4FdavKGXnjxvx6SxiiZ7UN1/eWtYIHumXkOEC4fPR7gX 0WZH0fNwBeLY4LY7etvxxjbBE8dDs7qVLMD00BNDLJQD5Mw19s+TdUN0te5nPvbAgD5m rSxC/F1poABR1Q27MLpnslcA0OxC2yFxFbg8wjgZiBZgWXpr/7V0hU+n7IIIaefLkvEG WTqnZpuPUO5DcbQB5dfOcefZqPS+tZkSOLdOsYccr7w6sm5m9fU5tr7q90Q2gcRDV/Rx k2Jg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Ywf2yFEFqI7Wl3GahzGFSX11neSkH1H3oO5yxqBcaVdbQGa7qE1 eUYeu69Wtedk8KYQm5cBr2QNTUp2o3uHk0JwpxRMF/7FKeEouDA8vQEt+ffoH69l9W5lsy1F/Ls uQnX5cwX66ersaA7Qj9ZHOpm6As3jWU3PpP5hcV+QNSI91xzoNqONjjWJasE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHlqKHA97/cuWqS8dlfO021cc6Q/QoFYEbWDBftfNXETOuW2Zt9/rEx5LCSSiTqS3+Tvdx/Ljnxw8ooBB7mRaI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6870:6124:b0:204:ffd:b6ad with SMTP id s36-20020a056870612400b002040ffdb6admr13800270oae.113.1704165803065; Mon, 01 Jan 2024 19:23:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Bob McMahon Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2024 19:23:11 -0800 Message-ID: To: Dave Taht Cc: Make-Wifi-fast Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="0000000000005d4255060dee054d" Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] =?utf-8?q?broadcom=C2=B4s_taf=3F?= X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2024 03:23:24 -0000 --0000000000005d4255060dee054d Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000054a4c1060dee05b9" --00000000000054a4c1060dee05b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Most of the technical documents require an established revenue relationship and aren't public domain. So take anything found on the internet with that in mind. I still see lots of iperf 3 is better than iperf 2 despite it not being accurate. Also, the lack of iperf 2 latency and one way delay conversations suggest the industry is woefully behind in understanding tests & tooling, and misinformation still reigns. Bufferbloat matters but so do so many other things. It's not a panacea that fixes all aspects of broadband and home networks. A relative missed their post surgery telehealth appointment because a neighbor's home speaker advertised an open ssid and their computer connected to it as if it provided internet access. Home networking needs a lot of attention by my judgment. Data centers have spent so much to deliver ads with little concern for actual users' experience. It's very sad to me this focus and the absence of effort towards redirecting our time towards better priorities that improve people's lives. I asked my son, who is getting a PhD in optics applied to medical equipment, what he and his peers think of Elon Musk. His answer, "He's just selling escapism to rich people." My daughter, getting a PhD in linguistics is saddened by the Musk followers too. She caught on to his grift in an instant. I find our true gifts as those we support while we are alive. They'll carry on and fix things we couldn't figure out or ran out of time to complete. Bob > Broadcom is a chip & SoC provider. You would need to contact system > integrators to learn more about these class of features. It's similar for > merchant silicon and switches. That's why companies like Arista are 90% s= w > engineers and have no ASIC teams. The market dynamics have mostly driven > this per engineering and purchasing cadences. > > Below is some older info from Cisco for some of their EAPs. I can't reall= y > make any claims about these features one way or another nor about the > veracity of the information per the link. > > > https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/controller/9800/config-gui= de/b_wl_16_10_cg/air-time-fairness.html > > Bob > > On Mon, Jan 1, 2024, 4:05 PM Dave Taht via Make-wifi-fast < > make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote: > >> taf >> Traffic airtime fairness. >> wl sta_monitor [ ] >> wl taf [ []] +- >> wl taf [coeff []|dump|list] >> wl taf enable [0|1]|order [0|1]|bypass [0|1]|high []|low >> []|force []|list >> >> That is all I have been able to glean about it... >> >> >> -- >> 40 years of net history, a couple songs: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9RGX6QFm5E >> Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos >> _______________________________________________ >> Make-wifi-fast mailing list >> Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast > > --=20 This electronic communication and the information and any files transmitted= =20 with it, or attached to it, are confidential and are intended solely for=20 the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain= =20 information that is confidential, legally privileged, protected by privacy= =20 laws, or otherwise restricted from disclosure to anyone else. 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Most of the technical documents require= an established revenue relationship and aren't public domain. So take = anything found on the internet with that in mind.

I still see lots of iperf 3 is better than iperf 2 desp= ite it not being accurate. Also, the lack of iperf 2 latency and one way de= lay conversations suggest the industry is woefully behind in understanding = tests & tooling, and misinformation still reigns.

Bufferbloat matters but so do so many other t= hings. It's not a panacea that fixes all aspects of broadband and home = networks. A relative missed their post surgery telehealth appointment becau= se a neighbor's home speaker advertised an open ssid and their computer= connected to it as if it provided internet access.=C2=A0

Home networking needs a lot of attention = by my judgment. Data centers have spent so much to deliver ads with little = concern for actual users' experience. It's very sad to me this focu= s and the absence of effort towards redirecting our time towards better pri= orities that improve people's lives.

<= div dir=3D"auto">I asked my son, who is getting a PhD in optics applied to = medical equipment, what he and his peers think of Elon Musk. His answer, &q= uot;He's just selling escapism to rich people." My daughter, getti= ng a PhD in linguistics is saddened by the Musk followers too. She caught o= n to his grift in an instant.=C2=A0

I find our true gifts as those we support while we are alive. T= hey'll carry on and fix things we couldn't figure out or ran out of= time to complete.=C2=A0

Bob
<= div dir=3D"auto">Broadcom is a chip & SoC provider. You would need to c= ontact system integrators to learn more about these class of features. It&#= 39;s similar for merchant silicon and switches. That's why companies li= ke Arista are 90% sw engineers and have no ASIC teams. The market dynamics = have mostly driven this per engineering and purchasing cadences.

Below is some older in= fo from Cisco for some of their EAPs. I can't really make any claims ab= out these features one way=C2=A0or another nor about the veracity of the in= formation per the link.

<= div dir=3D"auto">
Bob

On Mon, Jan 1, = 2024, 4:05 PM Dave Taht via Make-wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
taf
Traffic airtime fairness.
wl sta_monitor [<add/del> <xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx>]
wl taf <MAC> [<scheduler_id> [<priority>]] +-
wl taf <scheduler_id> [coeff [<coeff>]|dump|list]
wl taf enable [0|1]|order [0|1]|bypass [0|1]|high [<val>]|low
[<val>]|force [<val>]|list

That is all I have been able to glean about it...


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