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From: Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon@broadcom.com>
To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>,
	 Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	 BBR Development <bbr-dev@googlegroups.com>,
	bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [bbr-dev] Aggregating without bloating - hard times for tcp and wifi
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:13:16 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHb6LvqpVGLwN7ynT9BvsawOL_q3aY2vca7bEZKtsebN9KTtwA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.2211221202210.4070@nftneq.ynat.uz>


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An AP's radio complex may have a CPU but that doesn't mean it is the
standard linux stack as most think of it. Many consider this as part of
"firmware" which can be Linux, a Linux derivative or other.  Also, there
are some levels of wired/wireless forwarding plane integration done at the
hardware level that many might be surprised by.

Bob

On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 12:03 PM David Lang <david@lang.hm> wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Nov 2022, Bob McMahon via Make-wifi-fast wrote:
>
> > Finally, many (most?) APs are forwarding and feeding packets at at the
> > hardware level so not sure that the linux stack matters as much for an AP
> > based analysis, particularly when considering multi user transmissions,
> > i.e. multiple WiFi clients are active and sharing TXOPs.
>
> APs forward packets within the switch at the hardware level, but the
> radios have
> to go through the CPU, so any wired <-> wireless needs to go through the
> CPU,
> and I would be incredibly surprised if the wifi chips did wireless <->
> wireless
> routing at the hardware level.
>
> David Lang
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-22 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-22  6:04 [Make-wifi-fast] " Dave Taht
2022-11-22 19:42 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [bbr-dev] " Bob McMahon
2022-11-22 20:03   ` David Lang
2022-11-22 20:13     ` Bob McMahon [this message]
2022-11-22 20:16       ` David Lang
2022-11-22 20:28         ` Bob McMahon
2022-11-22 20:48           ` Bob McMahon
2022-11-22 20:10   ` Neal Cardwell
2022-11-22 20:53     ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-22 21:00       ` Bob McMahon
2022-11-23 13:50         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-11-23 20:36           ` Bob McMahon
2022-11-24  5:25     ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Muhammad Ahsan
2022-11-24 16:23       ` Dave Taht

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