It's part of the reasons iperf 2.0.14 has so many new latency, trip-time, start-time, connect, etc related features. Peak avg throughput is no longer a valid proxy for "performance." From a testing view, attenuation or range is no longer sufficient either. Phase shifters are needed per things like VR/AR as truly optimizing the number of spatial streams is needed too. The loss function(s) to be optimized (minimized) is far from trivial in both the definition and in [re]-computing in "real-time" WiFi engineers have more work to do. Bob On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:28 PM Dave Taht wrote: > Rich Brown writes: > > >> On Jan 24, 2020, at 9:06 AM, Rich Brown > wrote: > >> > >> I saw this overview of the now-in-testing Wi-Fi 6 at > >> > https://www.howtogeek.com/368332/wi-fi-6-what%E2%80%99s-different-and-why-it-matters/ > >> > >> Its multiple MIMO streams and maybe talking to multiple devices at a > >> time seem as if they might be outside the assumptions we use. > > > > It's worse than I thought. I just watched this explainer video from > > ExtremeNetworks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owBrkFk9afM > > > > If I understand correctly, they want the AP to solve a hard > > (bin-packing) problem, in real-time, with unclear rules for maximizing > > client goals (should the VoIP packet go first?). And no mention of > > airtime fairness or latency... > > > > Or am I missing something? Thanks. > > No, they punted on these things in the design. > > > > > Rich > > _______________________________________________ > > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast