LTE-U and LTE-LAA are basically the same thing. They require a licensed anchor. MuLTEFire does not. All needs to have a listen before talk and some level of fairness. All these are gonna give a lot better quality and capacity than 802.11. Enough to push 802.11 improvement in the standard? On Wednesday, 11 May 2016, Dave Taht wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:09 AM, Luca Muscariello > > wrote: > > Correct, but in between that time and now a lot has been done in > different > > areas but not much on this point. > > The fact that some part of the industry is looking at LTE-U is also > because > > 802.11 standard is not good enough. > > What do you think of LTE-LAA? > > I do think very strongly that actual usage of 802.11 can be made > vastly more efficient, that we can use up a great deal of the mac > currently being left unused, and schedule txops way more efficiently - > and that I'd love to test with michal's patch set against the LTE-U > tests cablelabs, etc which did > > 100 stations before (stock): > > http://blog.cerowrt.org/flent/drr/10tothe5.svg > > after > > http://blog.cerowrt.org/flent/drr/newcode.svg > > I became mortally opposed to LTE-U (lacking exponential backoff and > ignoring sparse station behavior, as well as today's crappy wifi > drivers - along with some very dubious benchmarks), but have not poked > much into LTE-LAA. > > I freely admit to loathing the 802.11 mac, and IF LTE-LAA could be as > open, accessible and usable to ordinary users as wifi was, would be > more embracing of it. > > > > > > > On Wednesday, 11 May 2016, David Lang > > wrote: > >> > >> On Wed, 11 May 2016, Luca Muscariello wrote: > >> > >>> It's surprising that 802.11 standard never considered time fairness in > >>> the > >>> EDCF. A reason might be the time fairness might be enforced using the > >>> PCF. > >> > >> > >> to be fair, at that point the rate variation was 1Mb - 11Mb and wasn't > >> expected to change much during use. > >> > >> David Lang > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast > > > > > > -- > Dave Täht > Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software! > http://blog.cerowrt.org >