From: Luca Muscariello <luca.muscariello@gmail.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: Jan Ceuleers <jan.ceuleers@gmail.com>,
bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] benefits of ack filtering
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 14:17:07 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHx=1M4SXef8KSqQ1YaduKYFG5A4eJJxSUKGjNArGKZSwLG7Hw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87wp2638yo.fsf@toke.dk>
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If I understand the text right, FastACK runs in the AP and generates an ACK
on behalf (or despite) of the TCP client end.
Then, it decimates dupACKs.
This means that there is a stateful connection tracker in the AP. Not so
simple.
It's almost, not entirely though, a TCP proxy doing Split TCP.
On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
> Jan Ceuleers <jan.ceuleers@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > On 01/12/17 01:28, David Lang wrote:
> >> Stop thinking in terms of single-flow benchmarks and near idle
> >> 'upstream' paths.
> >
> > Nobody has said it so I will: on wifi-connected endpoints the upstream
> > acks also compete for airtime with the downstream flow.
>
> There's a related discussion going on over on the make-wifi-fast list
> related to the FastACK scheme proposed by Meraki at this year's IMC:
>
> https://conferences.sigcomm.org/imc/2017/papers/imc17-final203.pdf
>
> It basically turns link-layer ACKs into upstream TCP ACKs (and handles
> some of the corner cases resulting from this) and also seems to contain
> an ACK compression component.
>
> -Toke
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2017-12-01 12:53 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-12-01 13:13 ` Кирилл Луконин
2017-12-01 13:22 ` Luca Muscariello
2017-12-11 17:42 ` Simon Barber
2017-12-01 13:17 ` Luca Muscariello [this message]
2017-12-01 13:40 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-12-01 17:42 ` Dave Taht
2017-12-01 20:39 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2017-12-03 5:20 ` Bob McMahon
2017-12-03 10:35 ` Juliusz Chroboczek
2017-12-03 19:04 ` Bob McMahon
2017-12-01 21:17 ` Bob McMahon
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