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From: Luca Muscariello <luca.muscariello@gmail.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: "linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net"
	<make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
	 "ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org" <ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC/RFT 0/5] Adding an airtime fairness scheduler to ath9k
Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 13:40:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHx=1M7SFK_zCeeM12U+W4OihRoPG8Ln3juZMhq3Ei4P6rNf=g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877fe3ucvl.fsf@toke.dk>

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On Sunday, 5 June 2016, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:

> Luca Muscariello <luca.muscariello@gmail.com <javascript:;>> writes:
>
> > I don't fully understand your plots but it would be useful to report
> > the  physical rate of the stations.
>
> Yes, well, there's not really one rate to report for each station, since
> Minstrel jumps about a bit and tries different ones.
>
>
I know. Try a simple case, one STA very close one far away. I am able to
get quite stable average PHY rates with minstrel. 5GHz and a free
channel can also help to get low variance in your numbers. A Faraday cage
can also help :) .



> > As a benchmark, if you know the physical rates assuming they are also
> > optimally chosen (by minstrel for instance ) and stations don't move,
> > the long term throughout can be computed ( e.g. for TCP ) assuming air
> > time fairness. Than you can understand if your gain is what you should
> > expect or if the implementation is not yet done.
>
> So far I've just been looking at the figures for airtime (the first
> graph in the blog post). These are the same numbers that the scheduler
> uses to make scheduling decisions. It seems like the scheduler does help
> somewhat, but is not perfect yet. Am definitely lacking a good ground
> truth to compare against, though. Computing the expected throughput
> might be possible, since minstrel does report statistics for how many
> packets were transmitted at each rate. Will look into it; thanks for the
> suggestion :)
>
> -Toke
>

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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-03 16:51 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-03 16:51 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC/RFT 1/5] mac80211: skip netdev queue control with software queuing Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-06  2:26   ` Julian Calaby
2016-06-06 17:00     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-03 16:51 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC/RFT 2/5] ath9k: use mac80211 intermediate software queues Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-03 16:51 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC/RFT 3/5] ath9k: Add airstame stats to per-station debugfs Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-03 16:51 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC/RFT 4/5] ath9k: Add a per-station airtime deficit scheduler Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-03 16:51 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC/RFT 5/5] ath9k: Count RX airtime in airtime deficit Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-04 17:06   ` Adrian Chadd
2016-06-05 10:55     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-05 17:23       ` Adrian Chadd
2016-06-07  0:01         ` Adrian Chadd
2016-06-07  1:31           ` Jonathan Morton
2016-06-07  8:58           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-07 11:12             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-08  1:41               ` Adrian Chadd
2016-06-08 13:06                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-10  8:40               ` Michal Kazior
2016-06-10  8:53                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-10  9:02                   ` Michal Kazior
2016-06-10  9:08                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-10  9:20                       ` Michal Kazior
2016-06-10  9:49                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-10 15:33                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-10 15:52                             ` Adrian Chadd
2016-06-04 15:24 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [RFC/RFT 0/5] Adding an airtime fairness scheduler to ath9k Luca Muscariello
2016-06-05 10:51   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-06-05 11:40     ` Luca Muscariello [this message]

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