From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-pf0-x22f.google.com (mail-pf0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B9283CB86 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 21:42:40 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-pf0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id o185so5016928pfb.1 for ; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 18:42:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pMjLAXzsLCagXxnBClzo8ZUbCDQGpMKGt2lXD9wKbL8=; b=PcfT4gNWtjm4DVOx028ui56rZa4lYZe8tVV0zCVMcg+hvBMYMiayQ4aTG7hNsnTZyo 13GOqSPEYiF+k317qFPz1KEJL2VoUaOC8584HIFOeLyQ22hwILgk3fqmlkec+tDH2YhT VHGvMa/qdV6fqcTX534zUhEEfLtlATaMIJ8GinkRoqbvIL3WqRGqhPBlABj7Nguo6qA5 1pgEHo3QWEdTJIuWhTVROelQpCJUQ2ZZzJ8ay5a8Qq5LL7nW7Z6lDo2sfUWLpr4vAVXp naUslaLhnJjl1Cwirj4ZUqJx/7SeUB16xZQEudqNhLitDqf/qtkVkLJ1q7GBVX8eOKuW VvVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:date:message-id:subject:from :to:content-type; bh=pMjLAXzsLCagXxnBClzo8ZUbCDQGpMKGt2lXD9wKbL8=; b=SkWKhW6Cxi8N3uEdBp8WCs6AGhkQYPn9TT5Iuf13akiDUfvQSZf+GfiqHjv1ohyYen 61QxQ3xwdKg4XoY8kDnF4EhUqi101iRZL8cSZSEjvg0X1y/PpjN3iZ7XAlgoco1Cu3MQ tTc+iKPkH2j0YtVRIobTruduJIf8knWKGiDMQms94gUwUi31rVQ2WPBhXncoRbMk7IyS Vje/V4ZdyVfirNJHTP6MKHvn6mdxg6+3aWdW7pLnZXtdweLUKDIBMXLgznxwp6w0LCRI aS7DWiHtUPc1ptVORsy3y/IBrvs0NNtsHfkFWeXopZaOt9YvKm5RXcr8DgDYicNTS0g/ nsrw== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOQ63VK3XUJvbmj2xjf5ooORmUfXWG9ZopVf7hvHr85ECayDenReWviFP1JkQf4wEWhO4gAEwf6N0Z80vg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.98.73.205 with SMTP id r74mr52596813pfi.118.1454467358292; Tue, 02 Feb 2016 18:42:38 -0800 (PST) Sender: john.yates.sheets@gmail.com Received: by 10.66.154.130 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Feb 2016 18:42:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 21:42:38 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2F0BC-OvNQtqti6ihnc2nhoIi-w Message-ID: From: John Yates To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0b8c0e3a83b9052ad49215 Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] Google's OnHub? X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2016 02:42:41 -0000 --94eb2c0b8c0e3a83b9052ad49215 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Google seems to have taken an interest in WiFi routers: https://on.google.com/hub/ The OnHub sports an impressive complement of antennae: - 6 x 2.4GHz - 6 x 5GHz - 1 congestion sensing (?) >From this arstechnica review : We do know that this little router is packing a ton of processing horsepower. The OnHub is powered by a Qualcomm IPQ8064=E2=80=94a close cous= in of the Snapdragon 600 (APQ8064). It's a dual core 1.4GHz SoC using the Krait 300 CPU architecture. The difference between the "AP" SoCs that usually ship in smartphones and the "IP" SoC here is the removal of smartphone-specific features like support for a display, camera, and cellular modem. Together with 1GB of RAM and 4GB of storage, the OnHub has stratospherically-high specs for a router. Nmap=E2=80=99s OS detection guessed the OnHub to be running "Linux 3.2 - 3.= 19." OnHub's license page makes several mentions of Gentoo and Chrome OS. According to *The Financial Times *, OnHub was a project from the Chrome and Google Fiber teams, so it makes sense that they would use parts of Chrome OS. And from this subsequent tear-down there are other fun radio components: There's also a Silicon Labs EM3581 SOC network co-processor for ZigBee and Skyworks 66109 2.4 GHz ZigBee/Smart Energy front-end module, which are also dormant. Both will be used, not for Zigbee compatible devices, but for Google's "Thread" protocol. Zigbee and Thread are both based on 802.15.4 and are hardware compatible, with a software update able to turn Zigbee devices into Thread devices. There's also an Atheros 3012-BL3D Bluetoo= th radio, another component that isn't turned on yet. If we could enlist them in the make-wifi-fast effort mightn't they have the clout to get us access to the innards of a product that they are sponsoring= ? /john --94eb2c0b8c0e3a83b9052ad49215 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Google seems to have= taken an interest in WiFi routers:


The OnHub sports an impressive complement of antennae:
  • 6 x 2.4GHz
  • 6 x 5GHz
  • 1 congestion sensing (?)
From this=C2=A0arstechnica review:

We do know th= at this little router is packing a ton of processing horsepower. The OnHub = is powered by a Qualcomm IPQ8064=E2=80=94a close cousin of the Snapdragon 6= 00 (APQ8064). It's a dual core 1.4GHz SoC using the Krait 300 CPU archi= tecture. The difference between the "AP" SoCs that usually ship i= n smartphones and the "IP" SoC here is the removal of smartphone-= specific features like support for a display, camera, and cellular modem. T= ogether with 1GB of RAM and 4GB of storage, the OnHub has stratospherically= -high specs for a router.

Nmap=E2=80=99s OS detection guessed the On= Hub to be running "Linux 3.2 - 3.19."=C2=A0OnHub's license= page=C2=A0makes several mentions of Gentoo and Chrome OS. According to= =C2=A0The Financial Times<= /i>, OnHub was a project from the Chrome and Google Fiber teams, so it make= s sense that they would use parts of Chrome OS.

And fr= om this=C2=A0su= bsequent tear-down=C2=A0there are other fun radio components:

There's als= o a Silicon Labs=C2=A0EM3581=C2=A0SOC n= etwork co-processor for ZigBee and Skyworks=C2=A066109=C2=A02.4 = GHz ZigBee/Smart Energy front-end module, which are also dormant. Both will= be used, not for Zigbee compatible devices, but for Google's "Thr= ead" protocol. Zigbee and Thread are both based on 802.15.4 and are ha= rdware compatible, with a software update able to turn Zigbee devices into = Thread devices. There's also an Atheros=C2=A03012-= BL3D=C2=A0Bluetooth radio, another component that isn't turned on y= et.

If we could enlist them in the make-wifi-fast effort migh= tn't they have the clout to get us access to the innards of a product t= hat they are sponsoring?
/john
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