From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-qt0-x22b.google.com (mail-qt0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c0d::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B1C53BA8E for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2017 07:13:36 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-qt0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id z28so7934993qtz.13 for ; Sun, 05 Nov 2017 04:13:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=e3JB+KnCYWr2H10hM9Rrx6rRtSpsOz1tctq9fisqQ7I=; b=uRMn4+atEE6FJJ5DLhEZLI2/IvubhxuF+OPiYBhiFFFzIUswnKPUH9IDeIPPCXJ/5X Bv/GnkNO2/Ks++cMc7L8zgRYHmUVbllzeYTtAs97J0UqbwFEFoEmB6AHWOmeIyEULwTM Iv8pxzauq8+diPxgTYGM0T9H49QnoVumsCMUAQno5VJN/3v4I5SU2u/RFvw8WUzyKPRc nmz2xDnisTwMvifpwG3q6Q+MovSHRWOyYTnk9VP1Z7rG01JxzEmEi6pjKgsb9SJBNq49 MK9VSxYXnsqZfVPF9HvIJydWCP1Qi28pu7vb24Oy7V03iI9YKunpOtzPrJUUBNU2GoHM Wg+A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=e3JB+KnCYWr2H10hM9Rrx6rRtSpsOz1tctq9fisqQ7I=; b=bbTltEDgxKE+Kl/nUuYVCUwxrG+H/8MGuupZcBMYl9kNMJ4k7jNc9FIJ5eC+Np4XO4 1Kr92zV2PlYoKVo968cFaGTIgGEB3/UJuVyUQiIgS9H9A3ccxpRXB9bLpOJfwfXnFTQ2 24/7rsh73GswgrrW941RpotgjDbTodJ6eC9KOBcekh1ha464EkRwSfwK8KHxKQiqCmBq 599Aq9oYnfy+QvwjErbezHjBNmuqRtNzoNeMQ4OE7NYDDYpYPL3GmmdRiDQv8RIh1bnR NP1N24bIQWP5JcvV8rnYHCUnpFP0QrR/nDh87kU3NbU9e9ndLvsMzNKbJ607sbeMgruo 5awA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaVRXEso5PbEOrcM3TLD1mCYm2mAcl8eeaQ0fvfBrmwVTeIYHcla IFtFHjUSrjAmA1eYGywt8fDafzfAW9JV6LGMPIY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+QWzJLQnuGUWWEnZC4+7q9Egu1i+FPw/PGY4+T7+NZaHlMEQTqVCVDQoiHoZJPOor/TCJccHgIeU+K7KaqBVIk= X-Received: by 10.200.46.22 with SMTP id r22mr17362991qta.63.1509884016147; Sun, 05 Nov 2017 04:13:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.80.133 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Nov 2017 04:13:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.80.133 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Nov 2017 04:13:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <535CD0D7-CB3A-4C42-AB13-548313F9002A@gmail.com> From: Jonathan Morton Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2017 14:13:35 +0200 Message-ID: To: Bob McMahon Cc: Pete Heist , make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113ffe0a6f42f4055d3b4401" Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Flent test hardware X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2017 12:13:36 -0000 --001a113ffe0a6f42f4055d3b4401 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm currently using an AMD APU system on an AsRock mini-ITX board as my primary computer. That happened to come with Atheros network hardware, both wired and wireless. With a little effort, it could be squeezed into a very small case indeed, and the major components can probably be found on clearance since the Ryzen release. APUs' CPU cores are hardly state of the art, but quick enough for this sort of job and sometimes very cheap indeed. The m/board model I have is FM2A88X-ITX+. Note that the later "/ac" model goes back to a Realtek wired chipset. If you can stand a larger form factor, the FM2A88M Extreme4+ R2.0 is another option to compare on price, though it doesn't come with a wifi card. In the current AsRock lineup for the AM4 socket, it appears that some models in their Fatal1ty line use Intel NICs. Pair one of those with a Bristol Ridge APU for now, and you'll be able to upgrade to Zen based Raven Ridge APUs, expected to be easily twice as fast, when they become available. - Jonathan Morton --001a113ffe0a6f42f4055d3b4401 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm currently using an AMD APU system on an AsRock mini-= ITX board as my primary computer.=C2=A0 That happened to come with Atheros = network hardware, both wired and wireless.

With a little effort, it could be squeezed into a very small= case indeed, and the major components can probably be found on clearance s= ince the Ryzen release.=C2=A0 APUs' CPU cores are hardly state of the a= rt, but quick enough for this sort of job and sometimes very cheap indeed.<= /p>

The m/board model I have is FM2A88X-ITX+.=C2=A0 Note that th= e later "/ac" model goes back to a Realtek wired chipset.=C2=A0 I= f you can stand a larger form factor, the FM2A88M Extreme4+ R2.0 is another= option to compare on price, though it doesn't come with a wifi card.

In the current AsRock lineup for the AM4 socket, it appears = that some models in their Fatal1ty line use Intel NICs.=C2=A0 Pair one of t= hose with a Bristol Ridge APU for now, and you'll be able to upgrade to= Zen based Raven Ridge APUs, expected to be easily twice as fast, when they= become available.

- Jonathan Morton

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