From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] [tsvwg] Comments on draft-szigeti-tsvwg-ieee-802-11e
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2015 22:21:32 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJq5cE2GNSqECZ0xL3PF33jToEQOUF3Ps4LKHn1u1uwFNQjJJA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1508101141430.20380@nftneq.ynat.uz>
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Most of the overhead is waiting for the channel, negotiating for the
channel (RTS/CTS) which happens at the multicast rate, then syncing the
receiver (a constant time operation), signalling what rate *will* be used
for the data portion, and finally letting other stations know, at multicast
rate again, that the transmission is ending, and powering down the
transmitter. This is then immediately followed by the receiving station
transmitting an ack (hopefully).
During the above, both stations involve have to switch on, tune, use, then
switch off their transmitters twice. This is a nontrivial task, for which
time is included in the protocol. I believe the times have been shaved as
technology generally improves.
There is also some framing overhead which is transmitted at data rate, but
that vanishes next to the MAC overheads listed above.
- Jonathan Morton
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2015-07-23 6:48 ` [Make-wifi-fast] Fwd: " Dave Taht
2015-07-23 7:44 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Jonathan Morton
2015-07-23 7:49 ` Alan Jenkins
2015-07-24 10:38 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-07-30 20:29 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] " Jonathan Morton
2015-07-30 21:35 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-07-30 21:56 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-07-31 3:27 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-07-31 16:47 ` dpreed
2015-07-31 17:04 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-07-31 20:23 ` Michael Richardson
2015-07-31 20:45 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-08-03 15:44 ` dpreed
2015-08-03 16:14 ` David Lang
2015-08-03 23:37 ` dpreed
2015-08-03 23:52 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-08-04 0:13 ` David Lang
2015-08-04 16:55 ` dpreed
2015-08-04 3:20 ` Simon Barber
2015-08-07 8:28 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-08-07 13:22 ` Rich Brown
2015-08-07 13:28 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-08-07 17:35 ` Rich Brown
2015-08-08 14:25 ` Simon Barber
2015-08-07 20:03 ` David Lang
2015-08-07 21:46 ` dpreed
2015-08-07 22:31 ` David Lang
2015-08-08 20:46 ` dpreed
2015-08-08 23:23 ` David Lang
2015-08-09 19:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-08-09 20:27 ` Simon Barber
2015-08-09 21:43 ` David Lang
2015-08-10 14:00 ` Simon Barber
2015-08-10 18:44 ` David Lang
2015-08-10 19:21 ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2015-08-10 21:18 ` Simon Barber
2015-08-09 21:50 ` David Lang
2015-08-10 5:39 ` Mikael Abrahamsson
2015-08-13 21:48 ` David Lang
2015-08-13 22:14 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-08-13 22:25 ` David Lang
2015-08-13 22:30 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-08-09 22:09 ` David Lang
2015-08-10 13:48 ` Simon Barber
2015-08-04 3:26 ` Simon Barber
2015-08-04 3:16 ` Simon Barber
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