From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vk0-x235.google.com (mail-vk0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6AA2D3B25E for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 00:22:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-vk0-x235.google.com with SMTP id f66so1431619vkh.2 for ; Mon, 09 May 2016 21:22:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=jnvOvfdCzVJa3TNCqO684cvtmq6znPUebHLf6DXBhFQ=; b=cbjf8Xdyn+498Xu9+qvvywXXVMCVhfLsjedntk88/cXPJNWG2GX/ifI7+N+qBa54kh Jmb7KIomcSnGKHmE/emqjnIYgk7UHLqLTpK5gtqJOHDG8Uz3ktHLLKpl5JhMhJUTCcZR SVFWiN6AIvLIbajr0+gQnUZlB8ULNNKhBjB3pde+YnDs723Tmz8849KEiGa9dyV58K7/ Z/NHERi1e6TUDGjHx1arblSmBQCJC0lvTj431HSrcZwpmp3m++WvdM3o6Ajlj0BGtCeH 6Efwk3koJoOfBF36y347CUWWaqHee3YzSiK0E0bNvTrzCAtlr0Gxd7Z3LezeGINSfEin pZTg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=jnvOvfdCzVJa3TNCqO684cvtmq6znPUebHLf6DXBhFQ=; b=A7vaD7imKqO6vlXTSZDUN7JkNIeivlQUaeFW7c7ptwqnzVkkAONmW0np/hdvdA4JeR 9bZPqD9YFaxDeyYZ3/muzAhdiHcCso8MgIs2qKzMrcnkxNx/CM9jqy7pWeY/dGiR3KB7 HVBwJvhwb+kbuhTL8IaJaehCYKEMBf6FWTq5lIiTnhcmCE5Uj6BA/eyJnQrUBcKpF5CN vGALGbrzEWoaSDJjHPc2RACxB0MSDY29h8iczA/KKnn3TITmSkXWHfQ36pOE9qopsw/Y D9rTCTM6eU/V8CT0XOC4i0pOXkDUxDeKuUqjreO5oW4B10cmuYysgvpJU/pkLjjKjked 4q2w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FV88XElUDpdyCTh6HDw28DSueIV8u4OMO81EbOWIs4lDG7X26pyUpoNuINIGQHnU8mfXgzXTyea+vCmAw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.31.84.2 with SMTP id i2mr8420974vkb.132.1462854144063; Mon, 09 May 2016 21:22:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.103.44.70 with HTTP; Mon, 9 May 2016 21:22:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <871t5bpkc7.fsf@toke.dk> <6ADC1A9D-72C9-47A5-BDC7-94C14ED34379@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 21:22:23 -0700 Message-ID: From: Aaron Wood To: Dave Taht Cc: Adrian Chadd , "ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org" , make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114e60e49d839f053275455a Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [ath9k-devel] Diagram of the ath9k TX path X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 04:22:24 -0000 --001a114e60e49d839f053275455a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Dave Taht wrote: > > Is everybody here on board with reducing that by 2 orders of > magnitude? Yes! > I'm not posting all these results and all the flent data > just to amuse myself... The size of the potential patch set for > softmac devices has declined considerably - codel.h and the fq code > are now generalized in some tree or another, and what's left is in two > competing patches under test... one that leverages rate control stats > and wins like crazy, the other, dql, and takes longer to win like > crazy. > I'm really hoping to be able to use this. Wifi is the last buffer-bloated part of my home network (the latency differences between wired and wireless are an order of magnitude apart). And as for multiple STAs per AP: That's the norm, these days. My house might be a bit extreme, but we have 8 STAs in 5GHz, and one lowly printer in 2.4GHz (which is too far for 5GHz to get to, and I haven't run a cable to that end of the house yet as I hate crawlspaces). -Aaron --001a114e60e49d839f053275455a Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:

Is everybody here on= board with reducing that by 2 orders of
magnitude?=C2=A0

Yes!
=C2=A0
I'm not posting all these results and = all the flent data
just to amuse myself... The size of the potential patch set for
softmac devices has declined considerably - codel.h and the fq code
are now generalized in some tree or another, and what's left is in two<= br> competing patches under test... one that leverages rate control stats
and wins like crazy, the other, dql, and takes longer to win like
crazy.

I'm really hoping to be able= to use this.=C2=A0 Wifi is the last buffer-bloated part of my home network= (the latency differences between wired and wireless are an order of magnit= ude apart).

And as for multiple STAs per AP: =C2= =A0That's the norm, these days.=C2=A0 My house might be a bit extreme, = but we have 8 STAs in 5GHz, and one lowly printer in 2.4GHz (which is too f= ar for 5GHz to get to, and I haven't run a cable to that end of the hou= se yet as I hate crawlspaces).

-Aaron
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