From: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>,
Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] mesh deployment with ath9k driver changes
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 19:20:56 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALQXh-NEDBSUR8W92WSs8bSbz2EBST0Lp8kavysYg616jAySjQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A520EE5F-332D-41B0-8444-A4A193B70A52@gmail.com>
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Do the AP-to-AP links use the same packet scheduling as the AP-to-STA
links? (especially the prohibition on aggregation for VO, which seems
counter-productive on a backhaul link).
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > On 5 Jul, 2018, at 9:02 pm, Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net> wrote:
> >
> >> Wouldn't be surprised. Note that packets will be dropped from the
> >> longest queue, though, so unresponsive flows just hurt themselves...
> >
> > Probably not before they’ve wasted airtime though and and impacted
> everyone else...
>
> Would it be worth extending the principle of airtime fairness to the QoS
> queues? Clearly traffic in the VO queue consumes airtime out of all
> proportion to its actual volume, due to the prohibition on aggregation;
> this provokes a similar argument to the impact of slow clients on faster
> ones.
>
> I wouldn't worry too much about the links between leaf APs and their
> clients. Those are probably relatively strong and fast, so BE traffic can
> get through reasonably well in between the VO traffic.
>
> But the AP-to-AP links cover a significant distance and are that much more
> susceptible to airtime congestion, which VO traffic exacerbates
> considerably. These APs are also running open-source firmware where we can
> actually tackle this problem. So there must be a case for deprioritising
> VO if it's using more than some reasonable share of the available airtime.
>
> Oh, and if I find out which BT client has selected a VO-category DSCP by
> default... >:-(
>
> - Jonathan Morton
>
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Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-05-19 16:03 bkil
2018-05-20 18:56 ` Pete Heist
2018-05-31 0:52 ` David Lang
2018-06-08 9:37 ` Pete Heist
2018-06-09 15:32 ` bkil
2018-06-13 13:07 ` Pete Heist
2018-06-13 13:24 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-06-13 16:01 ` Pete Heist
2018-06-30 19:14 ` bkil
2018-07-04 21:47 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-05 13:08 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-05 17:26 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-05 17:37 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-05 18:02 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-05 20:17 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-07-09 2:20 ` Aaron Wood [this message]
2018-07-09 5:17 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-07-09 6:27 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-09 12:55 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-07-09 23:21 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-09 5:13 ` David Lang
2018-07-09 23:33 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-10 0:39 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-10 7:02 ` bkil
2018-06-13 16:30 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-13 17:50 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
[not found] ` <CADuVhRWL2aVjzjfLHg1nPFa8Ae-hWrGrE7Wga4eUKon3oqoTXA@mail.gmail.com>
2018-06-30 19:26 ` bkil
2018-06-30 20:04 ` Jannie Hanekom
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2018-04-24 8:33 Pete Heist
2018-04-24 11:54 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 13:37 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 13:51 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 14:09 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 14:34 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 19:10 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 21:32 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-25 6:05 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-25 6:36 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-25 17:17 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26 0:41 ` David Lang
2018-04-26 19:40 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26 0:38 ` David Lang
2018-04-26 21:41 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26 21:44 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-26 21:56 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26 22:04 ` David Lang
2018-04-26 22:47 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-27 10:15 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-27 10:32 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-26 0:35 ` David Lang
2018-04-27 11:42 ` Valent Turkovic
2018-04-27 11:50 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-27 11:59 ` Valent Turkovic
2018-04-27 12:17 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-27 11:47 ` Valent Turkovic
2018-04-27 12:00 ` Pete Heist
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