From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr0-x22f.google.com (mail-wr0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4ADD3B2A3 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 2017 19:06:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wr0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id o16so4830183wra.1 for ; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 16:06:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZLMcVHETTO79yhChfsZP5L171HLyhNmwlqeM/uvsiPY=; b=gpK5JLp5eudpRclY/wK0dl9VQfSHNbcFrrcj8ion0ITwXIfFge4mIuP7fnFRdpZnwV 3Y3nIkgYMYv4Cg2ptrbIliPWHyoFtPhHkWnTz/m1NyuWC6AWj+z8eFXlFAObhLDbVhZU CdrKSSp9t36dsRrgcvmEmjU288QfijUPzytf8B8K8EV42lntDLYsRFkVBWuvlplspsHe dEDAxG2MbiU2J0QeHTBKylBqWEr3SmE6QtDUBt/eBndx6D7EoHwIJtrhjhKNL5+lqP+S F0F0bHVpvlsRglFKzQIYVjr7uEZwuXfIApfJmXVufAWVJnEx0dz8ae+aiEGVQMMuj37B tEVQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZLMcVHETTO79yhChfsZP5L171HLyhNmwlqeM/uvsiPY=; b=LfiQDPpJUWbFqFAg7Rj8oK14Armt81WyMJt5TYfODZHJMluuf1sy6h1tQlNrGNn5cE 2EmJUnDnpjE7haJnRUBQ4UHerXuEkkwT5ku3B5XrzQloF6Ec7COSReQFW4et14uVJLEf tZv/v8I7wETiNlEJiP+Xip3MzjHowUt0n8HM8sgAN5qKKccgztXMOYXzX0fA2A/R0+nZ mh+IYpunV1LOCHJQtx2UZUwZQYwzjN6XpzTSSNmLzHK1PznlecMTgFVKuLSnjIpt4/Or A3xpdK8XAi1xxImmuWmtIogAgOnPt2jMLtEuERaedrhBZHWe92PTr4AgJMdVmdKmYa+x 7KzA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXISRt9eM3guZ/MX4RtS94FKsEtb9SSx8QKhneszmfev3hmBLRRa+WchW1G2Vo/L4Zshru+O4KXzQ9/tNA== X-Received: by 10.223.138.172 with SMTP id y41mr3379624wry.118.1486253188016; Sat, 04 Feb 2017 16:06:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1486225619.383728022@mobile.rackspace.com> In-Reply-To: From: Aaron Wood Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 00:06:16 +0000 Message-ID: To: Jonathan Morton , "David P. Reed" Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113c34e4516ff90547bd49bc Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Making wifi really fast... X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2017 00:06:29 -0000 --001a113c34e4516ff90547bd49bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For pulling cables, I highly, highly recommend flexible conduit (smurf tube), and then pulling the cables through that (with a fish tape). Much easier than dealing with snags and kinks in the cables while running them from place to place. -Aaron On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 15:12 Jonathan Morton wrote: > > > On 4 Feb, 2017, at 18:26, dpreed@reed.com wrote: > > > > Motherboards with enough I/o performance to handle at least a couple of > gigabits per second, chopped into smallish packets. > > This shouldn=E2=80=99t be too difficult or expensive. > > > Consider this AM1 Mini-ITX build as a baseline: > https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zz9Ff8 > > The long PCIe slot is electrically x4 v2, but will accept any size card. > There=E2=80=99s a Mini-PCIe slot for wifi, and built-in GigE. The CPU is= weak but > efficient, and genuinely quad-core, giving you the option of dedicating > cores as you describe. The whole shebang can be powered with a laptop > brick instead of a conventional PSU. Best of all, AMD graphics are the > least troublesome out-of-the-box with Linux. > > > Even cheaper and quieter, but might not be stocked any more: > > https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vm8H99/asrock-motherboard-qc5000itxph > > > If you insist on a true x8 slot, then we need to move up a step: > https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G9jpdC > > Here the first long PCIe slot is x16 v3, as good as you can get. The > second one is x4 v2, but is disabled if you use the M.2 slot. Ether way, > there is a spare x1 slot and an old-skool PCI slot besides. The CPU is > faster than the AM1 build, but is much less efficient. It=E2=80=99s quad= -core, but > uses CMT, so the cores are not totally independent; I don=E2=80=99t know = how much > that matters for you. > > > If you prefer Intel, this is an inexpensive build: > https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DJTwCy > > However, this is a 2C/4T CPU rather than a true quad-core. Again, that > might or might not matter in practice. > > > - Jonathan Morton > > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast --001a113c34e4516ff90547bd49bc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For pulling cables, I highly, highly recommend flexible conduit (smurf tube= ), and then pulling the cables through that (with a fish tape). Much easie= r than dealing with snags and kinks in the cables while running them from p= lace to place.

-Aaron
On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 15:12 Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 4 Feb, 2017, at 18:26, dpreed@reed.com wrote:
>
> Motherboards with enough I/o performance to handle at least a couple o= f gigabits per second, chopped into smallish packets.

This shouldn=E2=80=99t be too difficult or expensive.


Consider this AM1 Mini-ITX build as a baseline:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://pcpartpi= cker.com/list/Zz9Ff8

The long PCIe slot is electrically x4 v2, but will accept any size card.=C2= =A0 There=E2=80=99s a Mini-PCIe slot for wifi, and built-in GigE.=C2=A0 The= CPU is weak but efficient, and genuinely quad-core, giving you the option = of dedicating cores as you describe.=C2=A0 The whole shebang can be powered= with a laptop brick instead of a conventional PSU.=C2=A0 Best of all, AMD = graphics are the least troublesome out-of-the-box with Linux.


Even cheaper and quieter, but might not be stocked any more:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Vm8H99/asrock-motherboar= d-qc5000itxph


If you insist on a true x8 slot, then we need to move up a step:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://pcpartpi= cker.com/list/G9jpdC

Here the first long PCIe slot is x16 v3, as good as you can get.=C2=A0 The = second one is x4 v2, but is disabled if you use the M.2 slot.=C2=A0 Ether w= ay, there is a spare x1 slot and an old-skool PCI slot besides.=C2=A0 The C= PU is faster than the AM1 build, but is much less efficient.=C2=A0 It=E2=80= =99s quad-core, but uses CMT, so the cores are not totally independent; I d= on=E2=80=99t know how much that matters for you.


If you prefer Intel, this is an inexpensive build:
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 https://pcpartpi= cker.com/list/DJTwCy

However, this is a 2C/4T CPU rather than a true quad-core.=C2=A0 Again, tha= t might or might not matter in practice.


=C2=A0- Jonathan Morton

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