From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ua0-x22f.google.com (mail-ua0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED5963B2A0 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2016 04:39:54 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ua0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id 51so322465870uai.1 for ; Sun, 04 Dec 2016 01:39:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=G0jax5cQUT4MBA8IHI7xaCqsaahYcMpDDd0sikHFAmQ=; b=eBrqZlWUgoyiogYs4lrbcJoJOKQeHIp5r0a65aL08s2Zgpja4+00aTtBFcca4cJhbc f67vCYNeYrzmFtZGkC2V/G+lNBvsaAEmm9a/zSNTjsN9px2xlRaTpsNmdSSrykySmBRB 5G9yu5d49cdyJo+81Oc2fUDS/D0WACQmks6xg3s4GC1XFPT7APYWW9aoaUFkzRi7rdSo g8xcZ6AK18qz7PvpNQkIxuEJa0+v4AAxR5Hul+mfobX8woRAy8q0Cl9HZvthBtfy5Ua+ NKxuT8I/S1bdaUXuyN5crap++1J72PDjNRSjk6ioxxaOL6jEbA9EDMnqz0VIWwKWTbPL nCqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=G0jax5cQUT4MBA8IHI7xaCqsaahYcMpDDd0sikHFAmQ=; b=T53BG0rQ+fPS0GtjWPp8qQN4hD+bDSDkgnoShnAd7ADkL3XVfZkOadrfyfaRi2YKFB c0yo6TUkA+eIKbzak+XZX8yMAUMjQP82mxgqySxLvV4Q7UiVeNBBYtIErUPefjVixDLC 7vdxVqFmnKiAa7pKduzMX0zlvCHVQu5B1TXrQs5BfY7eAapJp3W4PpgWxGkvil82NzEV 8a8aWYPaYXP1DmJ0j+1Ft6Mc/bL91phO5VNSjSV2dZThdaHWcBeHofB5tsdIMEnZ+sf8 cLCr9r+s+xbK6qUdNkmFuM1WbFIRScAg6Vvhi+RhKbwYhTHlXdgsUlX07XQIkeDToyvD /3Lw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC03y9ZOJK1EDy8ZBPf3HR5in930KHtS1/UOrnmV+3MowngKuTn/mFlDlExUSckb5y8J9i+Chq5VHYia2SQ== X-Received: by 10.159.48.222 with SMTP id k30mr40799231uab.2.1480844394149; Sun, 04 Dec 2016 01:39:54 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.59.5 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Dec 2016 01:39:53 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Pike Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 01:39:53 -0800 Message-ID: To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f403045dd8f014bd8c0542d1f44c Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2016 09:39:55 -0000 --f403045dd8f014bd8c0542d1f44c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did a new set on the same PC located on the other side of the house. Will also add the requested ethernet attached PC runs later. Just discovered that you can click on the bufferbloat graph items on the DSLReports Speedtest results, and they actually expand into a detailed picture vs time graph. Never knew about that! I disabled my virus scanner (Kaspersky) for the first time. Don't know if the smoother and faster results are more due to that, vs maybe it's pretty quiet on the home network front right now... One thing I've been wondering about, is the speed setting in the SQM, i.e. the 55mbit/5mbit in my case. Is it supposed to cap the data rates below the setting? If so, why am I still getting my upload speed surge of 10 or more mbit, even with it set to 5? New set of tests on the C7, Toke's 11-24 build. Same cake and piece of cake SQM as before, Noah's suggestion of removing the extra SQM settings has been done. SQM cap speeds: 55/5mbit Other new change, virus scanner disabled. Very smooth, near perfect speeds, only a very few high latency spikes. No neighboring PC running videos, or gaming, like there was in earlier tests. Maybe the upstairs roommate also wasn't as busy as well? 2.4Ghz AC adapter - Netgear A6200 AC1200 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880534 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880607 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880642 5Ghz AC adapter - Netgear A6200 AC1200 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880694 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880747 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880827 2.4Ghz N adapter - Netgear WNA3100 N300 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880915 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880950 http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880968 > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Noah Causin > To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > Cc: > Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:41:11 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches > > Are you using the dual-dsthost and dual-srchost options? If so, try > removing those settings from SQM and uncheck all the checkboxes you > selected to reach them. > > Then try a test on Ethernet with SQM on. > > Noah > > On 12/2/2016 1:14 PM, Jon Pike wrote: > > Hello all... > > Well, with medical issues, and having a busy week, I didn't get back > right away. Here's the DSLReports Speedtest runs I took. > > My results here are pretty variable, so I don't know how trustworthy the= y > are or how worth while to you guys, vs FLENT runs. > The lower block is using Toke's 11-18 C7 FW build, the upper block is > with the 11-24 build. > > Upshot, on my Archer C7, both ran for days with no apparent issues, on > my home network. Interesting note, I ran both the C7 v2 and the C7 v3, > both ran fine. So, if you end up with a v3, it shouldn't be an issue. > Further side note, the different configuration of the v3 model, with bo= th > 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz on the external "rabbit ears" antennas, seems to have a b= it > stronger signal on 2.4Ghz on the other end of my house, than the v2 mode= l > that has 3 separate, small 2.4Ghz antennas inside the box. Caveat, my > testing of that wasn't very thourough.. > > My overall home network setup is: Cox cable - SB6146 modem - Archer C7 > router - various clients. I did testing on a PC plugged directely in a > eth port of the C7, to PC's using Netgear Netgear WNA3100 N300, and A62= 00 > AC1200 USB adapters. > > Below are the links to DSLReports, on the tests. Most have cake, and > piece of cake, and Noah's suggested settings, with speed caps of 55 and 5 > mbit. My cable is supposed to be 60/6, I see 65 often, with wild speed > variation on the UL, settling to 5-6mbits. > > I have the Speedtest settings set for hi res bufferbloat, test time > extended to 20sec, which is about as long as you can go without pushing t= he > start of the test off the end of that graph. > > Let me know if this is in any way useful, or what I can do to make it > more worth looking at. It seems so variable and random, that I wonder > about the worth, as well as you don't get a good look at what the latenc= ey > is over time, vs FLENT. > > ------------------------------------------- > eth0 to router - no SQM > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6656688 Starts near 60, plateau > 64-65 (hits 66) then drops to 52-54 at the 10sec mark. UL hits 18, before > falling down to a 4.5-5.5 average Bloat C > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657058 very similar, but bloat an > A this time > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657916 " Bloat a C this > time > > > now C7 V2, with Toke 11-24 FW SQM 55/5 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659367 51.2 1.65, bloat B > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659493 52.4 3.01 bloat A peak of > 300-400ms on all including idle? > > -------------------------------- > Earlier tests with Toke's 11-18 FW, SQM 55/5 mbits > > 2.4Ghz N adapter Netgear WNA3100 N300 adapter > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440808 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440846 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440864 > > > 2.4Ghz AC adapter Netgear A6200 AC1200 adapter > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440940 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440963 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440987 > > 5Ghz AC adapter Netgear A6200 AC1200 adapter > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441015 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441038 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441056 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441132 (first A grade of the batch= ) > > eth1 to C7 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441483 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441570 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441586 > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jon Pike > To: "Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen" > Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 21:58:46 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches > > Wish I wasn't out of town still... I could have got some time with the > new one. Had been running the 11-18 build version of yours, on a C7 v2 = in > my mixed home network enviroment. N devices, AC devices, a semi rogue N > range extender, all running WPA2-AES. > > I did see some occasional large amounts of bloat, most of the time good > behavior. Occasional odd, regular thru put drops to 1/4 speed. I > mentioned this in earlier posts, have done some more detailed testing > since, that's at home and unavailable till I'm home again. You could s= ee > a few DSLReports logs in my posts. > > Hope that helps... > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing listMake-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.nethttps://li= sts.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast > > > > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast > --f403045dd8f014bd8c0542d1f44c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Did a new set on the same PC located on the other sid= e of the house.=C2=A0 Will also add the requested ethernet attached PC runs= later.=C2=A0 Just discovered that you can click on the bufferbloat graph i= tems on the DSLReports Speedtest results, and they actually expand into a d= etailed picture vs time graph.=C2=A0 Never knew about that!

I disabled my virus scanner (Kaspersky) for the first time.=C2=A0 Don= 9;t know if the smoother and faster results are more due to that, vs maybe = it's pretty quiet on the home network front right now...

<= div>One thing I've been wondering about, is the speed setting in the SQ= M,=C2=A0 i.e. the 55mbit/5mbit in my case.=C2=A0 Is it supposed to cap the = data rates below the setting?=C2=A0 If so, why am I still getting my upload= speed surge of 10 or more mbit, even with it set to 5?=C2=A0


New set of tests on the C7, Toke's 11-24 build.
Same cake= and piece of cake SQM as before, Noah's suggestion of removing the ext= ra SQM settings has been done.
SQM cap speeds: 55/5mbit
Other new ch= ange, virus scanner disabled.

Very smooth, near perfect speeds, only= a very few high latency spikes. No neighboring PC running videos, or gamin= g, like there was in earlier tests. Maybe the upstairs roommate also wasn&#= 39;t as busy as well?

2.4Ghz AC adapter - Netgear A6200 AC1200
http://www.dslrep= orts.com/speedtest/6880534
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880607
http://www.dslreports.com/= speedtest/6880642

5Ghz AC adapter - Netgear A6200 AC1200

= http://www.dslrepor= ts.com/speedtest/6880694
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880747
http://www.dslreports.com/spee= dtest/6880827

2.4Ghz N adapter - Netgear WNA3100 N300

http://www.dslreports.= com/speedtest/6880915
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880950
http://www.dslreports.com/speedte= st/6880968


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:=C2=A0Noah Causin &= lt;n0manletter@gmail.com>To:=C2=A0make-wif= i-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Cc:=C2=A0
Date:=C2=A0Fri, 2 Dec 2016= 13:41:11 -0500
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build wi= th airtime patches
=20 =20 =20

Are you using the dual-dsthost and dual-srchost options?=C2=A0 If so= , try removing those settings from SQM and uncheck all the checkboxes you selected to reach them.

Then try a test on Ethernet with SQM on.

Noah


On 12/2/2016= 1:14 PM, Jon Pike wrote:
Hello all...

Well, with medical issues, and having a busy week,=C2=A0 I didn't get back right away.=C2=A0 Here's the DSLReports S= peedtest runs I took.

My results here are pretty variable,=C2=A0 so I don't know= how trustworthy they are or how worth while to you guys,=C2=A0 vs=C2= =A0 FLENT runs.
The lower block is using Toke's 11-18 C7 FW build,=C2=A0 t= he upper block is with the 11-24 build.

Upshot,=C2=A0 on my Archer C7,=C2=A0 both ran for days with no apparent issues,=C2=A0 on my home network.=C2=A0 Interesting note= ,=C2=A0 I ran both the C7 v2 and the C7 v3,=C2=A0 both ran fine.=C2=A0 So, = if you end up with a v3,=C2=A0 it shouldn't be an issue.=C2=A0 Furth= er side note,=C2=A0 the different configuration of the v3 model,=C2=A0 wi= th both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz on the external "rabbit ears" antennas,= seems to have a bit stronger signal on 2.4Ghz on the other end of my house,=C2=A0 than the v2 model that has 3 separate, small 2.4Ghz antennas inside the box.=C2=A0 Caveat,=C2=A0 my testing of that w= asn't very thourough..

My overall home network setup is:=C2=A0 Cox cable - SB6146 mod= em - Archer C7 router - various clients.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I did testing o= n a PC plugged directely in a eth port of the C7,=C2=A0 to PC's usin= g Netgear Netgear WNA3100=C2=A0 N300, and A6200 AC1200 USB adapters= .

Below are the links to DSLReports,=C2=A0 on the tests.=C2=A0 M= ost have cake, and piece of cake, and Noah's suggested settings, with speed caps of 55 and 5 mbit.=C2=A0 My cable is supposed to b= e 60/6,=C2=A0 I see 65 often, with wild speed variation on the UL, settling to 5-6mbits.

I have the Speedtest settings set for hi res bufferbloat,=C2= =A0 test time extended to 20sec, which is about as long as you can go without pushing the start of the test off the end of that graph.

Let me know if this is in any way useful,=C2=A0 or what I can = do to make it more worth looking at.=C2=A0 It seems so variable and random, that I wonder about the worth,=C2=A0 as well as you don&#= 39;t get a good look at what the latencey is over time,=C2=A0 vs FLENT= .

-------------------------------------------
eth0 to router=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 no SQM

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6656688=C2=A0 Starts near 60, plateau 64-65 (hits 66) then drops to 52-54 at the 10sec mark. UL hits 18, before falling down to a 4.5-5.5 average=C2=A0 Bloat C

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657058=C2=A0 very similar,=C2=A0 but bloat an A this time

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657916=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 "=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Bloat a C this time

now C7 V2, with Toke 11-24 FW=C2=A0 SQM 55/5

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659367 51.2 1.65, bloat B

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659493 52.4 3.01=C2=A0 bloat A=C2=A0 peak of 300-400ms=C2=A0 on all incl= uding idle?

--------------------------------
Earlier tests with Toke's 11-18 FW,=C2=A0 SQM 55/5 mbits

2.4Ghz N adapter=C2=A0 Netgear WNA3100=C2=A0 N300 adapter

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440808

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440846

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440864


2.4Ghz AC adapter=C2=A0 Netgear A6200 AC1200 adapter

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440940

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440963

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440987

5Ghz AC adapter=C2=A0 Netgear A6200 AC1200 adapter

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441015

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441038

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441056

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441132=C2=A0=C2=A0 (first A grade of the batch)

eth1 to C7

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441483

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441570

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441586


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:=C2=A0Jon Pike <jonpike54@gmail.com>
To:=C2=A0"Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc:=C2=A0make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Date:=C2=A0Fri, 25 Nov 2016 21:58:46 -0800
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtim= e patches

Wish I wasn't out of town still...=C2=A0 I cou= ld have got some time with the new one.=C2=A0 Had been running the 11-1= 8 build version of yours,=C2=A0 on a C7 v2 in my mixed home netwo= rk enviroment.=C2=A0 N devices, AC devices,=C2=A0 a semi rogue N r= ange extender, all running WPA2-AES.

I did see some occasional large amounts of bloat,=C2=A0 most of the time good behavior.=C2=A0 Occasional o= dd, regular thru put drops to 1/4 speed.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I mentioned th= is in earlier posts,=C2=A0 have done some more detailed testing since= ,=C2=A0 that's at home and unavailable=C2=A0 till I'm home agai= n.=C2=A0 You could see a few DSLReports logs in my posts.

Hope that helps...




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