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   1. Re: [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting (Dave Taht)
   2. Re: [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting (Aaron Wood)
   3. I lost my temper with the wsj this morning (Dave Taht)
   4. Re: [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting (Dave Taht)



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: "David P. Reed" <dpreed@deepplum.com>
Cc: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>, Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Bcc: 
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:10:06 -0700
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting
Historically I've found the "Celeron" chips rather weak, but it's just
a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will
perform.

The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's
been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support
would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that,
(the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me
remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature
lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of
a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been
an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the
sent timestamp.

All the other features look rather nice on this board.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed <dpreed@deepplum.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does rather neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is really useful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560 capabilities regarding AQM?
>
> On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" <woody77@gmail.com> said:
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cake mailing list
> > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake
> > https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html
> >
> > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64
> > 8GB Ram
> > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers
> > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset
> > intel built-in graphics
> > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers
> > m.2 and PCIe adapters
> > <$200
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat



--
Make Music, Not War

Dave Täht
CTO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-831-435-0729




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>, "David P. Reed" <dpreed@deepplum.com>, Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Bcc: 
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:27:12 -0700
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting

The comparison of chipset performance link (to OpemWRT forums) that went out had this chip, the J4105 as the fastest.  Able to do a gigabit with cake (nearly able to do it in both directions).

I think this has replaced the apu2 as the board I’m going with as my edge router.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:10 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

Historically I've found the "Celeron" chips rather weak, but it's just
a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will
perform.

The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's
been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support
would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that,
(the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me
remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature
lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of
a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been
an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the
sent timestamp.

All the other features look rather nice on this board.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed <dpreed@deepplum.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does rather neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is really useful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560 capabilities regarding AQM?
>
> On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" <woody77@gmail.com> said:
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cake mailing list
> > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake
> > https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html
> >
> > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64
> > 8GB Ram
> > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers
> > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset
> > intel built-in graphics
> > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers
> > m.2 and PCIe adapters
> > <$200
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat



--
Make Music, Not War

Dave Täht
CTO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-831-435-0729

--

- Sent from my iPhone.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Cc: 
Bcc: 
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:35:03 -0700
Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] I lost my temper with the wsj this morning
https://www.wsj.com/articles/faster-internet-is-on-the-way-11585869911

https://twitter.com/mtaht/status/1246471612628516865

--
Make Music, Not War

Dave Täht
CTO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-831-435-0729




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>
Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>, "David P. Reed" <dpreed@deepplum.com>, Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Bcc: 
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 10:36:01 -0700
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting
I think I'll wait for y'all to try it and report back. I trust my
apu2s and I actually kind of like they lack a graphics chip and need
to be configured via serial port.

In other news I've started testing ubuntu 20.4, which among other
things, has wireguard in it. I've been really frustrated with the
state of distributions lately, trying to get any complex thing done
has required snaps and docker containers and I really prefer running
stuff natively when possible. Tools that I still rely on like mrtg and
smokeping are undermaintained, trying to get zoneminder to co-exist
and co-install with anything else (notably jitsi thus far) has been a
real PITA.

I am pleased at the increasing size of the ipv6 deployment, my phone
got it last month....

I think I've found a babel bug with default routes...

and I fired up a kernel build to go hack on the ax200 chips.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:27 AM Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The comparison of chipset performance link (to OpemWRT forums) that went out had this chip, the J4105 as the fastest.  Able to do a gigabit with cake (nearly able to do it in both directions).
>
> I think this has replaced the apu2 as the board I’m going with as my edge router.
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:10 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Historically I've found the "Celeron" chips rather weak, but it's just
>> a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will
>> perform.
>>
>> The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's
>> been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support
>> would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that,
>> (the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me
>> remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature
>> lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of
>> a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been
>> an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the
>> sent timestamp.
>>
>> All the other features look rather nice on this board.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed <dpreed@deepplum.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does rather neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is really useful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560 capabilities regarding AQM?
>> >
>> > On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" <woody77@gmail.com> said:
>> >
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Cake mailing list
>> > > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake
>> > > https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html
>> > >
>> > > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64
>> > > 8GB Ram
>> > > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers
>> > > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset
>> > > intel built-in graphics
>> > > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers
>> > > m.2 and PCIe adapters
>> > > <$200
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Bloat mailing list
>> > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Make Music, Not War
>>
>> Dave Täht
>> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
>> http://www.teklibre.com
>> Tel: 1-831-435-0729
>
> --
> - Sent from my iPhone.



--
Make Music, Not War

Dave Täht
CTO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-831-435-0729

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