From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ot1-x330.google.com (mail-ot1-x330.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::330]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A10B23B29E for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 02:46:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x330.google.com with SMTP id 111so14164756oth.13 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2020 23:46:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=fkgFrZXv3At/kq4QblCk1AdmUZTsBduDycm6VxqNmj0=; b=L1bTBzILp/AD1NZQIAYICUx2nLLERT19kgybGZsTjrEPjRBcLlfXfH2GGf8fSrxEmc IIdV7iMBSHTtV0ISq2GHiPb3ATBPbD7meFBzy3iTF6xErFJa0UDYZooL+iomDiTtg+m3 QgZNUtoRBe87IB0e3JhE6pH77bTXV28QueruyDaOa/7v4J7QDe7Ye2jyiC+KBSJczsCO vOOvR3BaXlF7GozjYb1xRh1pPllna86GMdJ5OL0AhFl3I8GLuPwOzmz2bU+VgqcCrC2t qxI1hUZIzuL+v4q4fNZyi79zN4GUXWXY6ttVqo14J3ptvlCxze5S5acWj2YC8jCjyJM7 rBoA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=fkgFrZXv3At/kq4QblCk1AdmUZTsBduDycm6VxqNmj0=; b=CJPq+3HOTRAIQAWjoLKwxjiAFil3QfK9M5de1gHkmKoiW8qiDM9J64Bk84NIu1AFIX d5ExsfVpgnWbiSrXsqYA74rAPJnPvdrTX9QkPEsEWQvT4I7XPuSV4rMmCDxzrmeaETcv a3g77j1+l0Hux13ufNaRMARp68u71LFC5uKK7Buod9tgYtBw24n2eT6P8NpbsvzExNgG k1xx1d7iGbQQfsPkLRzE9R+ZLXujgBR/vMha7NKTLoaXgdvo37TMd+igneJZAduKWhDU 3BtIIZoskcCWdQnSWsvuJTW8B9cqLVAys2mV/qiunZu3IyYwKSB/bOX0Fyl6G/WqR/Dz Rw0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuaaDdXCSVFfLMbbsc+b2ds9EwWl6mLF5cM0K6Q14hbdhGkn5qJG 2qkFjacGC5Qj5LlC8Q7JqMS4OrzfkTxG4HTv4ysPtQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypL+hajSUOdk9dqkNCwjwgZL/7QDbvoPEqRvE3IThxgOEdYNFFjUbYNrcVNqzB+9qRf07x89jfbf+FO4uIKc8eY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6830:1f56:: with SMTP id u22mr16695449oth.55.1586155596439; Sun, 05 Apr 2020 23:46:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Jon Pike Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2020 23:46:25 -0700 Message-ID: To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e2654305a299a096" Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Make-wifi-fast Digest, Vol 60, Issue 5 X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 06:46:37 -0000 --000000000000e2654305a299a096 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmm... that should be a good performer, has the hardware crytpo support, and is a goodly amount more powerful than the N3xxx that I have in a little Zotac box (CI327) router. Others on the OpenWRT forum (dlakeland) have tested that one, or even a lower scale J1900, as being able to shape a full 1Gb link, IIRC. Several threads going into that. BTW, the CI327 seems to now be extinct, but the delayed CI329 (which has a N4100 or 4105) is out now, $160-190, but w/o ram... so maybe this new board is a better deal at that price. Dont think it has Intel eth chipset, think its the "better" Realtec the earlier model had. Another option... On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 9:00 AM wrote: > Send Make-wifi-fast mailing list submissions to > make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > make-wifi-fast-request@lists.bufferbloat.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > make-wifi-fast-owner@lists.bufferbloat.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Make-wifi-fast digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting (Dave Taht) > 2. Re: [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting (Aaron Wood) > 3. I lost my temper with the wsj this morning (Dave Taht) > 4. Re: [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting (Dave Taht) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dave Taht > To: "David P. Reed" > Cc: Aaron Wood , Cake List , > Make-Wifi-fast , bloat < > bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net> > Bcc: > Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:10:06 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks > interesting > Historically I've found the "Celeron" chips rather weak, but it's just > a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will > perform. > > The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's > been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support > would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that, > (the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me > remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature > lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of > a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been > an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the > sent timestamp. > > All the other features look rather nice on this board. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed wrote: > > > > Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does > rather neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is reall= y > useful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560 > capabilities regarding AQM? > > > > On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" > said: > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Cake mailing list > > > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake > > > https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html > > > > > > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64 > > > 8GB Ram > > > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers > > > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset > > > intel built-in graphics > > > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers > > > m.2 and PCIe adapters > > > <$200 > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bloat mailing list > > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > > > > -- > Make Music, Not War > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-435-0729 > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Aaron Wood > To: Dave Taht > Cc: Cake List , "David P. Reed" < > dpreed@deepplum.com>, Make-Wifi-fast , > bloat > Bcc: > Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:27:12 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks > interesting > The comparison of chipset performance link (to OpemWRT forums) that went > out had this chip, the J4105 as the fastest. Able to do a gigabit with > cake (nearly able to do it in both directions). > > I think this has replaced the apu2 as the board I=E2=80=99m going with as= my edge > router. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:10 AM Dave Taht wrote: > >> Historically I've found the "Celeron" chips rather weak, but it's just >> a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will >> perform. >> >> The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's >> been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support >> would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that, >> (the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me >> remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature >> lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of >> a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been >> an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the >> sent timestamp. >> >> All the other features look rather nice on this board. >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed wrote= : >> > >> > Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does >> rather neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is real= ly >> useful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560 >> capabilities regarding AQM? >> > >> > On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" >> said: >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Cake mailing list >> > > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net >> > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake >> > > https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html >> > > >> > > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64 >> > > 8GB Ram >> > > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers >> > > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset >> > > intel built-in graphics >> > > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers >> > > m.2 and PCIe adapters >> > > <$200 >> > > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Bloat mailing list >> > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net >> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat >> >> >> >> -- >> Make Music, Not War >> >> Dave T=C3=A4ht >> CTO, TekLibre, LLC >> http://www.teklibre.com >> Tel: 1-831-435-0729 >> > -- > - Sent from my iPhone. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dave Taht > To: Make-Wifi-fast > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:35:03 -0700 > Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] I lost my temper with the wsj this morning > https://www.wsj.com/articles/faster-internet-is-on-the-way-11585869911 > > https://twitter.com/mtaht/status/1246471612628516865 > > -- > Make Music, Not War > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-435-0729 > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Dave Taht > To: Aaron Wood > Cc: Cake List , "David P. Reed" < > dpreed@deepplum.com>, Make-Wifi-fast , > bloat > Bcc: > Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 10:36:01 -0700 > Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks > interesting > I think I'll wait for y'all to try it and report back. I trust my > apu2s and I actually kind of like they lack a graphics chip and need > to be configured via serial port. > > In other news I've started testing ubuntu 20.4, which among other > things, has wireguard in it. I've been really frustrated with the > state of distributions lately, trying to get any complex thing done > has required snaps and docker containers and I really prefer running > stuff natively when possible. Tools that I still rely on like mrtg and > smokeping are undermaintained, trying to get zoneminder to co-exist > and co-install with anything else (notably jitsi thus far) has been a > real PITA. > > I am pleased at the increasing size of the ipv6 deployment, my phone > got it last month.... > > I think I've found a babel bug with default routes... > > and I fired up a kernel build to go hack on the ax200 chips. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:27 AM Aaron Wood wrote: > > > > The comparison of chipset performance link (to OpemWRT forums) that wen= t > out had this chip, the J4105 as the fastest. Able to do a gigabit with > cake (nearly able to do it in both directions). > > > > I think this has replaced the apu2 as the board I=E2=80=99m going with = as my > edge router. > > > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:10 AM Dave Taht wrote: > >> > >> Historically I've found the "Celeron" chips rather weak, but it's just > >> a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will > >> perform. > >> > >> The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's > >> been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support > >> would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that, > >> (the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me > >> remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature > >> lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of > >> a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been > >> an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the > >> sent timestamp. > >> > >> All the other features look rather nice on this board. > >> > >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed > wrote: > >> > > >> > Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does > rather neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is reall= y > useful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560 > capabilities regarding AQM? > >> > > >> > On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" > said: > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ > >> > > Cake mailing list > >> > > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> > > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake > >> > > https://www.seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html > >> > > > >> > > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64 > >> > > 8GB Ram > >> > > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers > >> > > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset > >> > > intel built-in graphics > >> > > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers > >> > > m.2 and PCIe adapters > >> > > <$200 > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Bloat mailing list > >> > Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net > >> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Make Music, Not War > >> > >> Dave T=C3=A4ht > >> CTO, TekLibre, LLC > >> http://www.teklibre.com > >> Tel: 1-831-435-0729 > > > > -- > > - Sent from my iPhone. > > > > -- > Make Music, Not War > > Dave T=C3=A4ht > CTO, TekLibre, LLC > http://www.teklibre.com > Tel: 1-831-435-0729 > > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast --000000000000e2654305a299a096 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hmmm... that should be a good performer,=C2=A0 has t= he hardware crytpo support,=C2=A0 and is a goodly amount more powerful than= the N3xxx that I have in a little Zotac box (CI327) router.=C2=A0=C2=A0
Others on the OpenWRT forum (dla= keland) have tested that one, or even a lower scale J1900, as being able to= shape a full 1Gb link, IIRC.=C2=A0 Several threads going into that.=C2=A0<= /div>

BTW,=C2=A0 the CI327 see= ms to now be extinct, but the delayed CI329 (which has a N4100 or 4105) is = out now,=C2=A0 $160-190, but w/o ram... so maybe this new board is a better= deal at that=C2=A0price.=C2=A0 Dont think it has Intel eth chipset,=C2=A0 = think its the "better" Realtec the earlier model had.=C2=A0 Anoth= er option...



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=C2=A0 =C2=A03. I lost my temper with the wsj this morning (Dave Taht)
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:=C2=A0Dave Taht= <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To:=C2=A0"David P. Reed" <= ;dpreed@deepplum.com>
Cc:=C2=A0Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>, Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>, Make-Wif= i-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>= , bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Bcc:=C2=A0
D= ate:=C2=A0Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:10:06 -0700
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [Make-wifi-fa= st] [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting
Historically I'v= e found the "Celeron" chips rather weak, but it's just
a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will
perform.

The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's
been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support
would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that,
(the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature
lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of
a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the
sent timestamp.

All the other features look rather nice on this board.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed <dpreed@deepplum.com&g= t; wrote:
>
> Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does ra= ther neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is really us= eful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560 capabili= ties regarding AQM?
>
> On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" <woody77@= gmail.com> said:
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cake mailing list
> > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listin= fo/cake
> > https://www.seeedstu= dio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html
> >
> > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64
> > 8GB Ram
> > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers
> > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset
> > intel built-in graphics
> > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers
> > m.2 and PCIe adapters
> > <$200
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/b= loat



--
Make Music, Not War

Dave T=C3=A4ht
CTO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-831-435-0729




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:=C2=A0Aaron Woo= d <woody77@gmail.com>
To:=C2=A0Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.c= om>
Cc:=C2=A0Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net= >, "David P. Reed" <dpreed@deepplum.com>, Make-Wifi= -fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>, b= loat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Bcc:=C2=A0
Date= :=C2=A0Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:27:12 -0700
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [Make-wifi-fast]= [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting
= The comparison of chipset performance link (to OpemWRT forums) that went ou= t had this chip, the J4105 as the fastest.=C2=A0 Able to do a gigabit with = cake (nearly able to do it in both directions).

I think this has replaced the apu2 as the boa= rd I=E2=80=99m going with as my edge router.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:1= 0 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
Historically I've found the "Celeron" chi= ps rather weak, but it's just
a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant will
perform.

The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It's
been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking support
would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that,
(the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the life of me remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feature
lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort of
a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn't been an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with the
sent timestamp.

All the other features look rather nice on this board.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed <dpreed@deepplum.com&g= t; wrote:
>
> Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this company does ra= ther neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is really us= eful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560 capabili= ties regarding AQM?
>
> On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" <woody77@= gmail.com> said:
>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Cake mailing list
> > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listin= fo/cake
> > https://www.seeedstu= dio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html
> >
> > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64
> > 8GB Ram
> > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers
> > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset
> > intel built-in graphics
> > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers
> > m.2 and PCIe adapters
> > <$200
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bloat mailing list
> Bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/b= loat



--
Make Music, Not War

Dave T=C3=A4ht
CTO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-831-435-0729
--
- Sent from my iPhone.



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:=C2=A0Dave Taht= <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To:=C2=A0Make-Wifi-fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Cc:=C2=A0
Bcc:= =C2=A0
Date:=C2=A0Sat, 4 Apr 2020 09:35:03 -0700
Subject:=C2=A0[Make-= wifi-fast] I lost my temper with the wsj this morning
https://www.wsj.com/articles/faster-i= nternet-is-on-the-way-11585869911

https://twitter.com/mtaht/status/1246= 471612628516865

--
Make Music, Not War

Dave T=C3=A4ht
CTO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-831-435-0729




---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:=C2=A0Dave Taht= <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To:=C2=A0Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.c= om>
Cc:=C2=A0Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net= >, "David P. Reed" <dpreed@deepplum.com>, Make-Wifi= -fast <make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net>, b= loat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Bcc:=C2=A0
Date= :=C2=A0Sat, 4 Apr 2020 10:36:01 -0700
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [Make-wifi-fast]= [Bloat] [Cake] New board that looks interesting
I think I'll wait f= or y'all to try it and report back. I trust my
apu2s and I actually kind of like they lack a graphics chip and need
to be configured via serial port.

In other news I've started testing ubuntu 20.4, which among other
things, has wireguard in it. I've been really frustrated with the
state of distributions lately, trying to get any complex thing done
has required snaps and docker containers and I really prefer running
stuff natively when possible. Tools that I still rely on like mrtg and
smokeping are undermaintained, trying to get zoneminder to co-exist
and co-install with anything else (notably jitsi thus far) has been a
real PITA.

I am pleased at the increasing size of the ipv6 deployment, my phone
got it last month....

I think I've found a babel bug with default routes...

and I fired up a kernel build to go hack on the ax200 chips.

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:27 AM Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com> wrot= e:
>
> The comparison of chipset performance link (to OpemWRT forums) that we= nt out had this chip, the J4105 as the fastest.=C2=A0 Able to do a gigabit = with cake (nearly able to do it in both directions).
>
> I think this has replaced the apu2 as the board I=E2=80=99m going with= as my edge router.
>
> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:10 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
>>
>> Historically I've found the "Celeron" chips rather w= eak, but it's just
>> a brand. I haven't the foggiest idea how well this variant wil= l
>> perform.
>>
>> The intel ethernet chips are best of breed in linux, however. It&#= 39;s
>> been my hope that the 211 variant with the timed networking suppor= t
>> would show up in the field (sch_etx) so we could fiddle with that,=
>> (the apu2s aren't using that version) but I cannot for the lif= e of me
>> remember the right keywords to look it up at the moment. this feat= ure
>> lets you program when a packet emerges from the driver and is sort= of
>> a whole new ballgame when it comes to scheduling - there hasn'= t been
>> an aqm designed for it, and you can do fq by playing tricks with t= he
>> sent timestamp.
>>
>> All the other features look rather nice on this board.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 7:47 AM David P. Reed <dpreed@deepplum.= com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks! I ordered one just now. In my experience, this compan= y does rather neat stuff. Their XMOS based microphone array (ReSpeaker) is = really useful. What's the state of play in Linux/OpenWRT for Intel 9560= capabilities regarding AQM?
>> >
>> > On Saturday, April 4, 2020 12:12am, "Aaron Wood" &l= t;woody77@gmail.com> said:
>> >
>> > > _______________________________________________
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>> > > https://www= .seeedstudio.com/ODYSSEY-X86J4105800-p-4445.html
>> > >
>> > > quad-core Celeron J4105 1.5-2.5 GHz x64
>> > > 8GB Ram
>> > > 2x i211t intel ethernet controllers
>> > > intel 9560 802.11ac (wave2) wifi/bluetooth chipset
>> > > intel built-in graphics
>> > > onboard ARM Cortex-M0 and RPi & Arduino headers
>> > > m.2 and PCIe adapters
>> > > <$200
>> > >
>> >
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>>
>> Dave T=C3=A4ht
>> CTO, TekLibre, LLC
>> http://www.teklibre.com
>> Tel: 1-831-435-0729
>
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