From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ua0-x22e.google.com (mail-ua0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 362C93B2A0 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2016 05:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ua0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id 12so322959195uas.2 for ; Sun, 04 Dec 2016 02:11:57 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=F89REYZeJJ6pUX/JomL0T7fbOVxQpYcqupTr+oZiAqg=; b=YF2z3TqZ0zdmmU7OoWqNdN2OrgHQkFo28h/mEm0TdWz7/TwUn9CnjMIoPeZdRzs2gd 7qODnrWfIf1apxa/HDQlxUcCcH84L6gLUGCEz3i7c4o6t6Hx6A1+FBoZHYMAFX5AecmH h6ksbOk2oMCn7lOIlWm7TxpBPt5TJwIBHJ8ZEOoIi0IFVeWA2A3DHx5SESUfveay4oaz lIeXAdlCJbfHPeWFA/O5zhvvqpO8waG8zu2MITAjnZR/5fEC3eFc5D5s1jau1fMyNxOj aM/s7e5WWZAkOufh2rfNStAOVb4p8wtlWTtcnp4gqZTQjCrq4W+IgCLfAGmKGyJTqkDn E5+Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=F89REYZeJJ6pUX/JomL0T7fbOVxQpYcqupTr+oZiAqg=; b=HfLX++ovg9c832m2Gj8opkIkSUrznbRHUCRisQzaeDj2Cpkre+T7tpiUpCjp0YoQbr 0zOAU/byVE1wDCcMUjIIprqBVg08C2AZy0bqIWPzfKbWNfsZXmGXANuIbKK/HHvu37cF 6dsOtBK3CqcagbtDpEANRFdP4SWvz4jMRYyMYliSJAw5np0uvF0GRer72DMJmIimeQ4+ yluu/SbCki3VYRUDHajH5gjR350xrBaooRJboygCYmWDeBABJG3mE1lBKfrPFUhsvhXp 0NElXs7IXWKxXEy9YaYdVTG+uEp96+RcVNUbAGPEHzhsbXastEtkU3UJY2YpSIS6CBwQ h+XA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC01Rh5uDUVi4u8ykipQg4Fv85/W5FfLMWoaazB6e53MiWKZb7wDQa4srWZw1GRwZ7g/8rtyxPVpMxQp15g== X-Received: by 10.176.5.37 with SMTP id 34mr38871280uax.92.1480846316506; Sun, 04 Dec 2016 02:11:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.59.5 with HTTP; Sun, 4 Dec 2016 02:11:56 -0800 (PST) From: Jon Pike Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 02:11:56 -0800 Message-ID: To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c125930a994c30542d266ed Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2016 10:11:57 -0000 --94eb2c125930a994c30542d266ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's some straight eth to router test runs. Wierdly, I'm getting worse performance on ethernet, than 15 minutes ago over the wifi link. This computer is older and slower though, and with a HD rather than a SSD. UL speed is slower overall, in the first two of the three tests, with many more high latency events on the bloat graph occuring on both the DL and the UL. Last one was cleaner and faster, though with a few large excursions. C7 gbit eth - gbit PC eth Somewhat slower Win 10 PC than the USB adapter platform. http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6881431 slow UL speeds, many high latency events, bloat score B http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6881473 " " http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6881491 better than the first two, both in UL speed and low latency Hope this is helpful... On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:39 AM, Jon Pike wrote: > Did a new set on the same PC located on the other side of the house. Wil= l > also add the requested ethernet attached PC runs later. Just discovered > that you can click on the bufferbloat graph items on the DSLReports > Speedtest results, and they actually expand into a detailed picture vs ti= me > graph. Never knew about that! > > I disabled my virus scanner (Kaspersky) for the first time. Don't know i= f > the smoother and faster results are more due to that, vs maybe it's prett= y > quiet on the home network front right now... > > One thing I've been wondering about, is the speed setting in the SQM, > i.e. the 55mbit/5mbit in my case. Is it supposed to cap the data rates > below the setting? If so, why am I still getting my upload speed surge o= f > 10 or more mbit, even with it set to 5? > > > New set of tests on the C7, Toke's 11-24 build. > Same cake and piece of cake SQM as before, Noah's suggestion of removing > the extra SQM settings has been done. > SQM cap speeds: 55/5mbit > Other new change, virus scanner disabled. > > Very smooth, near perfect speeds, only a very few high latency spikes. No > neighboring PC running videos, or gaming, like there was in earlier tests= . > Maybe the upstairs roommate also wasn't as busy as well? > > 2.4Ghz AC adapter - Netgear A6200 AC1200 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880534 > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880607 > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880642 > > 5Ghz AC adapter - Netgear A6200 AC1200 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880694 > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880747 > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880827 > > 2.4Ghz N adapter - Netgear WNA3100 N300 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880915 > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880950 > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880968 > >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Noah Causin >> To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net >> Cc: >> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:41:11 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches >> >> Are you using the dual-dsthost and dual-srchost options? If so, try >> removing those settings from SQM and uncheck all the checkboxes you >> selected to reach them. >> >> Then try a test on Ethernet with SQM on. >> >> Noah >> >> On 12/2/2016 1:14 PM, Jon Pike wrote: >> >> Hello all... >> >> Well, with medical issues, and having a busy week, I didn't get back >> right away. Here's the DSLReports Speedtest runs I took. >> >> My results here are pretty variable, so I don't know how trustworthy >> they are or how worth while to you guys, vs FLENT runs. >> The lower block is using Toke's 11-18 C7 FW build, the upper block is >> with the 11-24 build. >> >> Upshot, on my Archer C7, both ran for days with no apparent issues, o= n >> my home network. Interesting note, I ran both the C7 v2 and the C7 v3, >> both ran fine. So, if you end up with a v3, it shouldn't be an issue. >> Further side note, the different configuration of the v3 model, with b= oth >> 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz on the external "rabbit ears" antennas, seems to have a = bit >> stronger signal on 2.4Ghz on the other end of my house, than the v2 mod= el >> that has 3 separate, small 2.4Ghz antennas inside the box. Caveat, my >> testing of that wasn't very thourough.. >> >> My overall home network setup is: Cox cable - SB6146 modem - Archer C7 >> router - various clients. I did testing on a PC plugged directely in a >> eth port of the C7, to PC's using Netgear Netgear WNA3100 N300, and A6= 200 >> AC1200 USB adapters. >> >> Below are the links to DSLReports, on the tests. Most have cake, and >> piece of cake, and Noah's suggested settings, with speed caps of 55 and = 5 >> mbit. My cable is supposed to be 60/6, I see 65 often, with wild speed >> variation on the UL, settling to 5-6mbits. >> >> I have the Speedtest settings set for hi res bufferbloat, test time >> extended to 20sec, which is about as long as you can go without pushing = the >> start of the test off the end of that graph. >> >> Let me know if this is in any way useful, or what I can do to make it >> more worth looking at. It seems so variable and random, that I wonder >> about the worth, as well as you don't get a good look at what the laten= cey >> is over time, vs FLENT. >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> eth0 to router - no SQM >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6656688 Starts near 60, plateau >> 64-65 (hits 66) then drops to 52-54 at the 10sec mark. UL hits 18, befor= e >> falling down to a 4.5-5.5 average Bloat C >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657058 very similar, but bloat an >> A this time >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657916 " Bloat a C this >> time >> >> >> now C7 V2, with Toke 11-24 FW SQM 55/5 >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659367 51.2 1.65, bloat B >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659493 52.4 3.01 bloat A peak of >> 300-400ms on all including idle? >> >> -------------------------------- >> Earlier tests with Toke's 11-18 FW, SQM 55/5 mbits >> >> 2.4Ghz N adapter Netgear WNA3100 N300 adapter >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440808 >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440846 >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440864 >> >> >> 2.4Ghz AC adapter Netgear A6200 AC1200 adapter >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440940 >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440963 >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440987 >> >> 5Ghz AC adapter Netgear A6200 AC1200 adapter >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441015 >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441038 >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441056 >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441132 (first A grade of the >> batch) >> >> eth1 to C7 >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441483 >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441570 >> >> http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441586 >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Jon Pike >> To: "Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen" >> Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net >> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 21:58:46 -0800 >> Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches >> >> Wish I wasn't out of town still... I could have got some time with the >> new one. Had been running the 11-18 build version of yours, on a C7 v2= in >> my mixed home network enviroment. N devices, AC devices, a semi rogue = N >> range extender, all running WPA2-AES. >> >> I did see some occasional large amounts of bloat, most of the time good >> behavior. Occasional odd, regular thru put drops to 1/4 speed. I >> mentioned this in earlier posts, have done some more detailed testing >> since, that's at home and unavailable till I'm home again. You could = see >> a few DSLReports logs in my posts. >> >> Hope that helps... >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Make-wifi-fast mailing listMake-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.nethttps://l= ists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Make-wifi-fast mailing list >> Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast >> > > --94eb2c125930a994c30542d266ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here's some straight eth to router test runs= .

Wierdly, I'm getting worse performance on ethernet, than= 15 minutes ago over the wifi link. This computer is older and slower thoug= h, and with a HD rather than a SSD.=C2=A0

UL speed is slower overal= l, in the first two of the three tests,=C2=A0 with many more high latency e= vents on the bloat graph occuring on both the DL and the UL.=C2=A0 Last one= was cleaner and faster, though with a few large excursions.

C7 gbit= eth - gbit PC eth

Somewhat slower Win 10 PC than the USB adapter p= latform.

htt= p://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6881431=C2=A0 slow UL speeds, many hig= h latency events, bloat score B
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6881473=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 &q= uot;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 "
http://www.dslreports.com/speed= test/6881491=C2=A0 better than the first two, both in UL speed and low = latency

Hope this is helpful...


On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:= 39 AM, Jon Pike <jonpike54@gmail.com> wrote:
Did a new set= on the same PC located on the other side of the house.=C2=A0 Will also add= the requested ethernet attached PC runs later.=C2=A0 Just discovered that = you can click on the bufferbloat graph items on the DSLReports Speedtest re= sults, and they actually expand into a detailed picture vs time graph.=C2= =A0 Never knew about that!

I disabled my virus scanner (K= aspersky) for the first time.=C2=A0 Don't know if the smoother and fast= er results are more due to that, vs maybe it's pretty quiet on the home= network front right now...

One thing I've been wonde= ring about, is the speed setting in the SQM,=C2=A0 i.e. the 55mbit/5mbit in= my case.=C2=A0 Is it supposed to cap the data rates below the setting?=C2= =A0 If so, why am I still getting my upload speed surge of 10 or more mbit,= even with it set to 5?=C2=A0


New set of tests on th= e C7, Toke's 11-24 build.
Same cake and piece of cake SQM as before= , Noah's suggestion of removing the extra SQM settings has been done. <= br>SQM cap speeds: 55/5mbit
Other new change, virus scanner disabled.
Very smooth, near perfect speeds, only a very few high latency spikes.= No neighboring PC running videos, or gaming, like there was in earlier tes= ts. Maybe the upstairs roommate also wasn't as busy as well?

2.4= Ghz AC adapter - Netgear A6200 AC1200

http://www.dslreports.com/= speedtest/6880534
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880607
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880642

5Ghz AC ada= pter - Netgear A6200 AC1200

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/= 6880694
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880747
http:/= /www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880827

2.4Ghz N adapter - Ne= tgear WNA3100 N300

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880915
http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880950
http://www.dslr= eports.com/speedtest/6880968
<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:=C2=A0Noah Causin &= lt;n0manletter@g= mail.com>
To:=C2=A0make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.netCc:=C2=A0
Date:=C2=A0Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:41:11 -0500
Subject:=C2=A0R= e: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches
=20 =20 =20

Are you using the dual-dsthost and dual-srchost options?=C2=A0 If so= , try removing those settings from SQM and uncheck all the checkboxes you selected to reach them.

Then try a test on Ethernet with SQM on.

Noah


On 12/2/2016 1:14 PM, Jon Pike wrote:
Hello all...

Well, with medical issues, and having a busy week,=C2=A0 I didn't get back right away.=C2=A0 Here's the DSLReports S= peedtest runs I took.

My results here are pretty variable,=C2=A0 so I don't know= how trustworthy they are or how worth while to you guys,=C2=A0 vs=C2= =A0 FLENT runs.
The lower block is using Toke's 11-18 C7 FW build,=C2=A0 t= he upper block is with the 11-24 build.

Upshot,=C2=A0 on my Archer C7,=C2=A0 both ran for days with no apparent issues,=C2=A0 on my home network.=C2=A0 Interesting note= ,=C2=A0 I ran both the C7 v2 and the C7 v3,=C2=A0 both ran fine.=C2=A0 So, = if you end up with a v3,=C2=A0 it shouldn't be an issue.=C2=A0 Furth= er side note,=C2=A0 the different configuration of the v3 model,=C2=A0 wi= th both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz on the external "rabbit ears" antennas,= seems to have a bit stronger signal on 2.4Ghz on the other end of my house,=C2=A0 than the v2 model that has 3 separate, small 2.4Ghz antennas inside the box.=C2=A0 Caveat,=C2=A0 my testing of that w= asn't very thourough..

My overall home network setup is:=C2=A0 Cox cable - SB6146 mod= em - Archer C7 router - various clients.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I did testing o= n a PC plugged directely in a eth port of the C7,=C2=A0 to PC's usin= g Netgear Netgear WNA3100=C2=A0 N300, and A6200 AC1200 USB adapters= .

Below are the links to DSLReports,=C2=A0 on the tests.=C2=A0 M= ost have cake, and piece of cake, and Noah's suggested settings, with speed caps of 55 and 5 mbit.=C2=A0 My cable is supposed to b= e 60/6,=C2=A0 I see 65 often, with wild speed variation on the UL, settling to 5-6mbits.

I have the Speedtest settings set for hi res bufferbloat,=C2= =A0 test time extended to 20sec, which is about as long as you can go without pushing the start of the test off the end of that graph.

Let me know if this is in any way useful,=C2=A0 or what I can = do to make it more worth looking at.=C2=A0 It seems so variable and random, that I wonder about the worth,=C2=A0 as well as you don&#= 39;t get a good look at what the latencey is over time,=C2=A0 vs FLENT= .

-------------------------------------------
eth0 to router=C2=A0=C2=A0 -=C2=A0 no SQM

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6656688=C2=A0 Starts near 60, plateau 64-65 (hits 66) then drops to 52-54 at the 10sec mark. UL hits 18, before falling down to a 4.5-5.5 average=C2=A0 Bloat C

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657058=C2=A0 very similar,=C2=A0 but bloat an A this time

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657916=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 "=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Bloat a C this time

now C7 V2, with Toke 11-24 FW=C2=A0 SQM 55/5

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659367 51.2 1.65, bloat B

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659493 52.4 3.01=C2=A0 bloat A=C2=A0 peak of 300-400ms=C2=A0 on all incl= uding idle?

--------------------------------
Earlier tests with Toke's 11-18 FW,=C2=A0 SQM 55/5 mbits

2.4Ghz N adapter=C2=A0 Netgear WNA3100=C2=A0 N300 adapter

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440808

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440846

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440864


2.4Ghz AC adapter=C2=A0 Netgear A6200 AC1200 adapter

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440940

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440963

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440987

5Ghz AC adapter=C2=A0 Netgear A6200 AC1200 adapter

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441015

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441038

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441056

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441132=C2=A0=C2=A0 (first A grade of the batch)

eth1 to C7

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441483

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441570

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441586


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From:=C2=A0Jon Pike <jonpike54@gmail.com>
To:=C2=A0"Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc:=C2=A0make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Date:=C2=A0Fri, 25 Nov 2016 21:58:46 -0800
Subject:=C2=A0Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtim= e patches

Wish I wasn't out of town still...=C2=A0 I cou= ld have got some time with the new one.=C2=A0 Had been running the 11-1= 8 build version of yours,=C2=A0 on a C7 v2 in my mixed home netwo= rk enviroment.=C2=A0 N devices, AC devices,=C2=A0 a semi rogue N r= ange extender, all running WPA2-AES.

I did see some occasional large amounts of bloat,=C2=A0 most of the time good behavior.=C2=A0 Occasional o= dd, regular thru put drops to 1/4 speed.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I mentioned th= is in earlier posts,=C2=A0 have done some more detailed testing since= ,=C2=A0 that's at home and unavailable=C2=A0 till I'm home agai= n.=C2=A0 You could see a few DSLReports logs in my posts.

Hope that helps...





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