* Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] flent testers wanted prior to next release
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@ 2016-12-21 23:00 ` Jon Pike
2016-12-21 23:44 ` Jon Pike
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From: Jon Pike @ 2016-12-21 23:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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How does one find out how to set up and run under Windows?
There seems to be so little available information, I had earlier came to
the conclusion that it was only supported on Linux/xNIX, and stopped
looking.
| In particular, I fear we've broken windows users of flent.
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1. Re: flent testers wanted prior to next release
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To: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>, Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com>
Cc: "Joel Wirāmu Pauling" <joel@aenertia.net>, make-wifi-fast@lists.
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Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:02:42 +0100
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] flent testers wanted prior to next release
Cc. Rick Jones (netperf author)
On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 18:08:04 -0800 Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Joel Wirāmu Pauling <joel@aenertia.net>
> wrote:
>
> > My biggest bug bear is that reliance on netperf/netserver with -DEMO
mode
> > compilation time flag breaks compilation on recent RHEL and Fedora boxes
> > due to recent GCC incompatibilities.
> >
>
> I ran into some issues on OSX due to the gcc -> clang switch, but it was
> pretty easy to get a clean compilation with a couple lines patched. What
> errors are you getting?
I hope you have informed the netperf maintainer (Rick Jones
<rick.jones2@hpe.com>) and send your patches/fixes to him? ;-)
You should likely base your patches on his subversion repo here:
svn checkout http://www.netperf.org/svn/netperf2/trunk/ netperf2-svn
AFAIK OpenWRT/LEDE also have compile workarounds that isn't upstream too...
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* Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] flent testers wanted prior to next release
2016-12-21 23:00 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] flent testers wanted prior to next release Jon Pike
@ 2016-12-21 23:44 ` Jon Pike
2016-12-22 9:44 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
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From: Jon Pike @ 2016-12-21 23:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: make-wifi-fast
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I suppose I should mention that I understand Flent is a Python wrapper,
(little trouble there on Win systems) and I'm really asking how do you
install Netperf on a Win 10 system...
On Dec 21, 2016 3:00 PM, "Jon Pike" <jonpike54@gmail.com> wrote:
> How does one find out how to set up and run under Windows?
>
> There seems to be so little available information, I had earlier came to
> the conclusion that it was only supported on Linux/xNIX, and stopped
> looking.
>
> | In particular, I fear we've broken windows users of flent.
>
> On Dec 21, 2016 9:00 AM, <make-wifi-fast-request@lists.bufferbloat.net>
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> 1. Re: flent testers wanted prior to next release
> (Jesper Dangaard Brouer)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
> To: Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com>, Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hpe.com>
> Cc: "Joel Wirāmu Pauling" <joel@aenertia.net>,
> make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, "cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"
> <cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net>, bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net>,
> flent-users@flent.org
> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:02:42 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] flent testers wanted prior to next release
>
> Cc. Rick Jones (netperf author)
>
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 18:08:04 -0800 Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Joel Wirāmu Pauling <joel@aenertia.net
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > My biggest bug bear is that reliance on netperf/netserver with -DEMO
> mode
> > > compilation time flag breaks compilation on recent RHEL and Fedora
> boxes
> > > due to recent GCC incompatibilities.
> > >
> >
> > I ran into some issues on OSX due to the gcc -> clang switch, but it was
> > pretty easy to get a clean compilation with a couple lines patched. What
> > errors are you getting?
>
> I hope you have informed the netperf maintainer (Rick Jones
> <rick.jones2@hpe.com>) and send your patches/fixes to him? ;-)
>
> You should likely base your patches on his subversion repo here:
>
> svn checkout http://www.netperf.org/svn/netperf2/trunk/ netperf2-svn
>
>
> AFAIK OpenWRT/LEDE also have compile workarounds that isn't upstream too...
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Jesper Dangaard Brouer
> MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer
>
>
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* Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] flent testers wanted prior to next release
2016-12-21 23:44 ` Jon Pike
@ 2016-12-22 9:44 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2016-12-22 10:05 ` Sebastian Moeller
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From: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen @ 2016-12-22 9:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jon Pike; +Cc: make-wifi-fast
Jon Pike <jonpike54@gmail.com> writes:
> I suppose I should mention that I understand Flent is a Python
> wrapper, (little trouble there on Win systems) and I'm really asking
> how do you install Netperf on a Win 10 system...
I think I've seen a cross-compiled version of netperf somewhere (or
possibly it was for cygwin). I don't think it has ever been possible to
*run* Flent tests on Windows, but the GUI should work there, so you can
load up data files and browse through them... Unless I broke something.
-Toke
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* Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] flent testers wanted prior to next release
2016-12-22 9:44 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
@ 2016-12-22 10:05 ` Sebastian Moeller
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From: Sebastian Moeller @ 2016-12-22 10:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen; +Cc: Jon Pike, make-wifi-fast
Hi Jon,
> On Dec 22, 2016, at 10:44, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
>
> Jon Pike <jonpike54@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> I suppose I should mention that I understand Flent is a Python
>> wrapper, (little trouble there on Win systems) and I'm really asking
>> how do you install Netperf on a Win 10 system...
>
> I think I've seen a cross-compiled version of netperf somewhere (or
> possibly it was for cygwin). I don't think it has ever been possible to
> *run* Flent tests on Windows, but the GUI should work there, so you can
> load up data files and browse through them... Unless I broke something.
I believe recent win10 builds allow to run linux binaries and there is a way to get ubuntu installed under that system including the packet manager, so google for ubuntu on win10 and see whether you can install and operate the netperf binary on that on. While not testing all thing windows, it still would use the windows network stack I believe…
Best Regards
Sebastian
>
> -Toke
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* [Make-wifi-fast] flent testers wanted prior to next release
@ 2016-12-20 19:02 Dave Taht
2016-12-21 2:06 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] " Aaron Wood
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2016-12-20 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bloat, flent-users, cerowrt-devel, cake, make-wifi-fast
Toke has been busy adding new features to the flent network test tool.
I consider it *almost* stable enough for a new release. Some of the
development has been focused on making the flent-gui much faster and
more responsive (as our data sets have got larger), others on
providing better default command line output, and there's other fixes
across the board, including QT5 support.
In particular, I fear we've broken windows users of flent. I would
dearly like it if some more folk out there using flent could pull the
latest git version and see if there are any new bugs or regressions in
it, any of the the 87 tests, and the plotters, before freezing the
code for a new year's release.
github: https://github.com/tohojo/flent
main site: https://flent.org/
While you are at it, please feel free to stress out any of the flent
servers as a target, give the new cake a shot and compare it against
htb+fq_codel or your aqm of choice, or fiddle with the new wifi code,
and share your data. tcp_nup, tcp_ndown, rrul, rrul_be remain the main
tests, but the square wave one is turning out interesting.... :)
And if you have any feature requests or bugs to file, please get them
in soon to the github!
We could also use better documentation and tutorials for use... some
more example scripts leveraging things like the cpu_stats and
qdisc_stats tools, and so on,
Active public servers include:
flent-freemont.bufferbloat.net
( this is colocated with flent-bbr-west which has bbr on by default - an
interesting test might be testing both these servers at the same time
via the rtt_fair* tests from your location)
flent-dallas.bufferbloat.net
flent-london.bufferbloat.net
flent-tokyo.bufferbloat.net
flent-newark.bufferbloat.net
There are also netperf-west and netperf-east and netperf-eu and no
doubt a few others.
We plan to add a few BBR enabled servers over the holidays.
The changelog so far:
- Support PyQt5 in the GUI (and prefer it over PyQt4). If PyQt5 is not
found, fall back to PyQt4.
- Add new SummaryFormatter that outputs mean and median values for
each data series. This is the new default formatter, meaning that its
output will be shown after a test run if no other formatter (or plot)
is specified.
- Support multiprocessing in the GUI. When loading several plots at
once, plotting will now be passed off to separate worker processes.
This allows plotting to use all the available processors on the
machine, and speeds up loading of many plots tremendously (initial
load is sped up by an order of magnitude). This change also means that
re-plotting on config changes will be done dynamically in the
background, which makes the GUI more responsive.
- Make text completely black in the default colour scheme. This
increases contrast, and helps legibility, especially on printed
figures.
- Some internal code changes: Port command line parser from the old
optparse class to the newer argparse, and fix a bunch of linter
--
Dave Täht
Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
http://blog.cerowrt.org
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* Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] flent testers wanted prior to next release
2016-12-20 19:02 [Make-wifi-fast] " Dave Taht
@ 2016-12-21 2:06 ` Aaron Wood
2016-12-21 21:04 ` Dave Taht
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Aaron Wood @ 2016-12-21 2:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave Taht; +Cc: bloat, flent-users, cerowrt-devel, cake, make-wifi-fast
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On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> Active public servers include:
>
> flent-freemont.bufferbloat.net
> ( this is colocated with flent-bbr-west which has bbr on by default - an
> interesting test might be testing both these servers at the same time
> via the rtt_fair* tests from your location)
>
> flent-dallas.bufferbloat.net
> flent-london.bufferbloat.net
> flent-tokyo.bufferbloat.net
> flent-newark.bufferbloat.net
The flent-bbr-west hostname isn't resolving for me, and isn't responding at
the previous IPv4 address that was given for it.
-Aaron
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* Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] flent testers wanted prior to next release
2016-12-21 2:06 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] " Aaron Wood
@ 2016-12-21 21:04 ` Dave Taht
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Dave Taht @ 2016-12-21 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Aaron Wood; +Cc: bloat, flent-users, cerowrt-devel, cake, make-wifi-fast
I have no idea why the bbr server is not showing up in the dns. It
shows up locally on the name server...
My plan was to put up 3 bbr servers over the holidays, I'll look into
it more then. Got too much christmas stuff on my plate right now.
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Aaron Wood <woody77@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Active public servers include:
>>
>> flent-freemont.bufferbloat.net
>> ( this is colocated with flent-bbr-west which has bbr on by default - an
>> interesting test might be testing both these servers at the same time
>> via the rtt_fair* tests from your location)
>>
>> flent-dallas.bufferbloat.net
>> flent-london.bufferbloat.net
>> flent-tokyo.bufferbloat.net
>> flent-newark.bufferbloat.net
>
>
> The flent-bbr-west hostname isn't resolving for me, and isn't responding at
> the previous IPv4 address that was given for it.
>
> -Aaron
--
Dave Täht
Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!
http://blog.cerowrt.org
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