From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ot1-x334.google.com (mail-ot1-x334.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::334]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6072F3B29E for ; Mon, 9 Aug 2021 14:06:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ot1-x334.google.com with SMTP id z9-20020a9d62c90000b0290462f0ab0800so9621254otk.11 for ; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 11:06:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Gz7tQztBePIBKh//jiTCONdXQ+HM/63uaMgwkkKauiQ=; b=gAg8Ci0zS1Wb02L47ZjGg7m/jpev+PYvkULxIMMr4oGLJ2RPPFV2qtZFYma+1OoscA TGdY5KkiHKP2lyV3GO1CwltTNfkBDH3kqVwfUEfVIus8QH5F4EIDMpT+mdqlQCPDi63P F7l5B+6oG/61aXgPCT2WZ1JTLWBF/OUe5oSsQFMk6CHk5jBJHfeNCztGFukMHqf1Y++w UTjlJ4/XSDP5l1o/42HWXf+g26HVOzFnsk3SNse+Z6UB1BpdQut+Ho8rBoEQPjX67/CD Gk8Zt8EaTX9WnptCW2teXZB0mhdm4ZCRHY/QJmmOs2wBgy2MKSD/hwAJnW53g2Qa44Da cFQw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Gz7tQztBePIBKh//jiTCONdXQ+HM/63uaMgwkkKauiQ=; b=pXFr1h2KhmIG+c9ttG3QSpLWOQ2F9XPZzN5FxPU1pvQEp5EfiWjTKs0dTX9Uts/ZSI 0ml2cldpbRWA7x7s2kB1hIAwOQSBhx6IPmasX967fDiyM+ggOk6pO4cHJKUTBiUNPpOd ural6I2KhidyJK17133ueFBg1LcM9hoJtyMFMC2e3r4Yk7nlO3ii6UuEK9pVfJxXk6lm ZylGA70ylwSkW6AwxdWzgaEDGHQpNGfvbrPSiRZbm7ixc/dOTXHX+AYmt2vvoZep7VJ2 zLEvCXdbp6jY+kvC0X3HoHNPud4BOO0R/w8RZxni6LdnqzaVcCFcERo8p5Q5hKcq+4VH LS/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530FK3w1Kmuu+8OWZFYWuChaQnnjXxiVm0OFvcJ8IkrMyWHfPfNK lOrveWrivE/OFJ9TMdyoOrSBqOScA07LrtntchN2z9YCEqg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwcz0tIC5LDGWFFfPqdbn5JcVLvUq8NYvUDIMOoYeMVue5VdFAJ6pYj/cOSYvHyElOsjYr2nu47s7ibh1rTX20= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:7cc5:: with SMTP id r5mr4552770otn.55.1628532359448; Mon, 09 Aug 2021 11:05:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Jon Pike Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2021 11:05:47 -0700 Message-ID: To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ca4d3105c9243c27" Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Make-wifi-fast Digest, Vol 75, Issue 9 X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2021 18:06:00 -0000 --000000000000ca4d3105c9243c27 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Sidelines guy here, with a half baked suggestion... I wonder how practical a "Nielson Method" approach might be? As in, you set up a bunch of routers with internal data gathering and reporting , and give them to a few hundred households... I can see that to do that would be a not insignificant undertaking itself, as well as managing it... and you'd never have as much data on what's happening in the houses when X happens as you might like, but it would beat renting lots of houses. On Sun, Aug 8, 2021, 9:00 AM wrote: > > Our real world test is using a real house that has been rented. Not cheap > nor scalable. > > > --000000000000ca4d3105c9243c27 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sidelines guy here, with a half baked suggestion...<= /div>

I wonder how practical a= "Nielson Method" approach might be?=C2=A0 As in, you set up a bu= nch of routers with internal data gathering and reporting ,=C2=A0 and give = them to a few hundred households...=C2=A0

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I can see that to do that would be a not insignificant un= dertaking itself, as well as managing it...=C2=A0 and you'd never have = as much data on what's happening in the houses when X happens as you mi= ght like,=C2=A0 =C2=A0but it would beat renting lots of houses.

O= n Sun, Aug 8, 2021, 9:00 AM <make-wifi-fast-r= equest@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

Our real world test= is using a real house that has been rented. Not cheap nor scalable.

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