From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-vk0-x232.google.com (mail-vk0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B4FB3B260 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:52:47 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-vk0-x232.google.com with SMTP id x186so196640600vkd.1 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:52:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=iex3LH5FdqMopsFZLS/J4J2c5IQfb0abY8PFmQoEM5I=; b=AMlqiEOkQNdSzCE4IpiYtSPqIJ7OMFJeewq4V3AfBEbi8wbY8XY7D5Wzw0IM0725Zp z/ri8E6K6c8Tvqmtsq7stFBK0S8Ghvf5vPwHCjZkz6b4OdNaP3esWxCDJbx/0ashIvV5 PjPebWGCm+dyN5SYIKWsUkRJIN9Vh69KVLdqSAETJ5yA7aCUXr5bz8Ow9OIi/pSco7bc WJmuj3ghllRcgUKqmngEbeXEHdwOh4auF646MkvHVcz99ELErw5L9WOtJOY6A7IUBI8K c3LCAP08mlz7PryhWyvL5uZdo6MhBgJNTgV+aKpyxWiR3Od+ufMBC19CEEhAUqr4xlp2 Fzuw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=iex3LH5FdqMopsFZLS/J4J2c5IQfb0abY8PFmQoEM5I=; b=Fw7c3ZWdyDcFTwpa8a3LvQgH6QQYo9a9Pr90iZfBZlJ1Fs4wpvm/E2720iVUAmue63 lp9wvawoTT4NlgRH3uqtSnFWYOO5UjRoEHOCDD1mEDTTJ4PYye9rjau4TNrKufP5l27h G8NNzRrFy0iDVzuovAnSsM5RM5opUP4UlYprortP3n/CqxH9/lsiS0VHicfGdzJ3Z+D7 pEF+IV0hZiOFs+G/G9YC0NzR7mgTLd6ef1Ji6KBAdo4oUbSMfj4NQ4wzHxwTvoDf20vw Pk26wJGZVerGsMe/CmOtDnZWbezYuv4jIUCzsIcOurLFVaoumKrLhSY3v3n9CJY27C9l ynrA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC038cDj0P4BV3Jkzd+ED6j/MzHVSkwm0haclyPK6ZDsIBcWlXN7dGqbg/aiw5JlfBKsjh9zN4YYJq2pDpA== X-Received: by 10.31.238.139 with SMTP id m133mr3652171vkh.27.1479613966566; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:52:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.26.133 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.31.26.133 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:52:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4f96dab7-3785-88b8-ed20-4cdd68ff26ee@cox.net> From: Jon Pike Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:52:45 -0800 Message-ID: To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c14995ee1cb730541b3788b Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2016 03:52:47 -0000 --94eb2c14995ee1cb730541b3788b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I should have said that I stopped using your config, went back to default. Was having issues, as I was learning LEDE and luci, (probably more me than it) so config'ed from scratch, and THAT is what I used when going from your build to Toke's. I could imagine eventual problems as what's in a LEDE version changes too much, question is what is too much and how do you know? Has what I done pretty much accomplished the same thing? --------------- From: Noah Causin To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net Cc: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:32:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches What I think you should do is completely reset the router's settings in the update firmware tab on that new build, and just setup the WiFi names and passwords. Then go to luci-app-sqm, set your speeds, select cake, and select piece_of_cake.qos. The settings file I set you was for a very thorough setup. I think you should just go with basic WiFi and Cake to avoid conflicts On Nov 19, 2016 7:32 PM, wrote: > And let me know what I might do to take more useful data with DSLReports... > > On Nov 19, 2016 7:20 PM, "Jon Pike" wrote: > >> Ok, hosed that first one up pretty good. Let's see how badly I can do >> this time... >> >> >> Taking it around the block... so far so good on my Archer C7... ;-) >> >> Chickened out a bit, didn't try a sysupgrade, I had been running a >> custom build from Noah and didn't know if that was going to be an issue. >> Also didn't try to save settings, let it clean everything out. >> Installed my most recent settings, that seemed to work. Someone let me >> know if there could be version issues there I might not have noticed yet. >> >> I'm running on the settings Noah mentioned a while back, cake and piece >> of cake and the below: >> > Simply select cake as the qdisc and a sqm script that uses cake. Under >> > the "Queue Discipline" tab, enable a set of two checkboxes. >> > >> > Under "Advanced option string to pass to the ingress queueing >> > disciplines," put in "dual-dsthost nat" >> > >> > Under "Advanced option string to pass to the egress queueing >> > disciplines," put in "dual-srchost nat" >> > >> > Because of the issues with WMM in the WiFi stack, I recommend using the >> > following custom iptables rules: >> > >> > iptables -t mangle -A FORWARD -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be >> > iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be >> > ip6tables -t mangle -A FORWARD -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be >> > ip6tables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be >> > >> > You still need WMM to get the full speeds on the newer WiFi modes. >> > >> > Noah >> >> I'm a little uncertain of what parts of what are in what state of >> working. Current setup is 65/6Mbit Cable Modem - C7 - variety of Win >> PC's and other things. I have a couple of AC1200 usb adapters, a few >> phones are AC as well, as well as a lot of N devices. Been trying to >> keep up with what's working with which interface. >> >> I'm getting mostly decent numbers for bufferbloat on DSLreports. Only >> have DSLreports as a test method now, so I'm not much good for decent >> data. >> My PC to eth connection has next to nothing, and most of the time the >> wifi looks very good with bloat below 30ms. >> >> I have been seeing an anomaly, though, in that I get a fast startup, >> with very low latency, download speed in the 50's, then after 5-10 sec >> the speed drops drastically to the 10's for a few seconds, then rises >> back up to the 50's again. I was getting ready to write this up the >> other night, then trying it again it was gone. Full, flat speed thru >> the whole test, over many tries. Tonight, it's back again. This was >> on Noah's build, as well as tonight's change to Toke's 11-18 C7 build. >> Not sure what to make of it. Here's an example URL to DSLreports, if >> that helps: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6276874 >> >> It can do this on 2.4Ghz and on 5Ghz with the AC1200 dongle, believe it >> did it on the N dongle, will try that shortly. Also, the game player >> is home from work now... we'll see what his comments are... >> >> Jon >> > --94eb2c14995ee1cb730541b3788b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I should have said that I stopped using your config,=C2=A0 w= ent back to default.=C2=A0 Was having issues, as I was learning LEDE and lu= ci, (probably more me than it) so config'ed from scratch,=C2=A0 and THA= T is what I used when going from your build to Toke's.=C2=A0

I could imagine eventual problems as what's in a LEDE ve= rsion changes too much,=C2=A0 question is what is too much and how do you k= now?=C2=A0

Has what I done pretty much accomplished the same thing?
=

---------------
From: Noah Causin <n0manletter@= gmail.com>
To: make-wifi-fast@= lists.bufferbloat.net
Cc:
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:32:14 -0500
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches
What I think you should do is completely reset the router's settings in= the update firmware tab on that new build, and just setup the WiFi names a= nd passwords.

Then go to luci-app-sqm, set your speeds, select cake, and s= elect piece_of_cake.qos.

The settings file I set you was for a very thorough setup.= =C2=A0 I think you should just go with basic WiFi and Cake to avoid conflic= ts


On Nov 19, 2016 7= :32 PM, <make-wifi-fast-request@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

And let me know wh= at I might do to take more useful data with DSLReports...


On Nov 19, 2016 7= :20 PM, "Jon Pike" <jonpike54@gmail.com> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Ok, hosed that first one up pr= etty good.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Let's see how badly I can do this time...

Taking it around the block... so far so good on my Archer C7= ...=C2=A0 ;-)

Chickened out a bit,=C2=A0 didn't try a sysupgrade,=C2= =A0 I had been running a
custom build from Noah and didn't know if that was going to be an issue= .
Also didn't try to save settings, let it clean everything out.=C2=A0 Installed my most recent settings,=C2=A0 that seemed to work. Someone let m= e
know if there could be version issues there I might not have noticed yet.

I'm running on the settings Noah mentioned a while back,= cake and piece
of cake and the below:
> Simply select cake as the qdisc and a sqm script that uses cake. Under=
> the "Queue Discipline" tab, enable a set of two checkboxes.<= br> >
> Under "Advanced option string to pass to the ingress queueing
> disciplines," put in "dual-dsthost nat"
>
> Under "Advanced option string to pass to the egress queueing
> disciplines," put in "dual-srchost nat"
>
> Because of the issues with WMM in the WiFi stack, I recommend using th= e
> following custom iptables rules:
>
> iptables -t mangle -A FORWARD -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be > iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be
> ip6tables -t mangle -A FORWARD -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be > ip6tables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -o br-lan -j DSCP --set-dscp-class be >
> You still need WMM to get the full speeds on the newer WiFi modes.
>
> Noah

I'm a little uncertain of what parts of what are in what= state of
working.=C2=A0 Current setup is 65/6Mbit Cable Modem - C7 - variety of Win =
PC's and other things.=C2=A0 I have a couple of AC1200 usb adapters, a = few
phones are AC as well,=C2=A0 as well as a lot of N devices.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Bee= n trying to
keep up with what's working with which interface.

I'm getting mostly decent numbers for bufferbloat on DSL= reports. Only
have DSLreports as a test method now, so I'm not much good for decent d= ata.
My PC to eth connection has next to nothing,=C2=A0 and most of the time the=
wifi looks very good with bloat below 30ms.

I have been seeing an anomaly, though, in that I get a fast = startup,=C2=A0
with very low latency,=C2=A0 download speed in the 50's,=C2=A0 then aft= er 5-10 sec
the speed drops drastically to the 10's for a few seconds,=C2=A0 then r= ises
back up to the 50's again.=C2=A0 I was getting ready to write this up t= he
other night,=C2=A0 then trying it again it was gone.=C2=A0 Full, flat speed= thru
the whole test,=C2=A0 over many tries. Tonight,=C2=A0 it's back again.= =C2=A0 This was
on Noah's build, as well as tonight's change to Toke's 11-18 C7= build.=C2=A0
Not sure what to make of it.=C2=A0 Here's an example URL to DSLreports,= =C2=A0 if
that helps: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6276874

It can do this on 2.4Ghz and on 5Ghz with the AC1200 dongle,= believe it
did it on the N dongle,=C2=A0 will try that shortly.=C2=A0 Also, the game p= layer
is home from work now... we'll see what his comments are...

Jon

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