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From: Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] 3g/4g with fq_codel & mobility
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 22:34:27 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOp4FwRUWqBWNXbm_6SXFsz3bqUxusrz+-zBGWuHzpHe5pPiRQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <97DE7A30-F225-4B9C-B84B-DD3C38F35A69@gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 3:27 PM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 21 Nov, 2016, at 13:16, Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have one of those gl.inet 6416a board. It runs fq_codel on the
>> USB-3g dongle modem interface, and it runs very well at rest.
>>
>> I put it inside a car, and while driving, I notice some induced latency:
>>
>> https://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6354936
>>
>> Can someone who has some understanding of 3g/4g internals shed some
>> light ? Could the 3g/4g modem be buffering due to varying strength of
>> the signal or due to handover in base station ?
>
> Usually such dongles don’t give direct access to the 3G modem interface.  Instead they provide an Ethernet or PPP interface, and do a conversion internally.  Ethernet emulation is more common of late, possibly due to the rise of 4G.
>
> Running fq_codel on such a device without a shaper relies on the buffers in *both* the dongle itself and the driver for the emulated Ethernet device having appropriately sized buffers in aggregate.  This is virtually never the case.  And that’s just for the upload direction.
>
> In the download direction you are relying on buffers in the provider’s network and the cell tower.  Fq_codel on your own hardware has no effect here.
>

I think that reducing the buffer size with NCM might be a good start,
particularly with 4G. THere is a lot of work to be done on the
USB-ethernet stack.

      reply	other threads:[~2016-11-22 18:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-21 11:16 Loganaden Velvindron
2016-11-21 11:27 ` Jonathan Morton
2016-11-22 18:34   ` Loganaden Velvindron [this message]

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