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From: Pete Heist <peteheist@gmail.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Flent results for point-to-point Wi-Fi on LEDE/OM2P-HS available
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2017 16:26:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D60670F3-20D3-44ED-B2CA-B9FD2082370B@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877f52rz68.fsf@toke.dk>

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> Yeah, I have recently begun learning Go myself, and like it too. Apart
> from the fact that it produces these huge statically linked binaries,
> and requires glibc, so you can't run it on embedded systems (such as
> LEDE).
> 
> If I were to integrate code that actually shipped packets into Flent, I
> would probably use Python…

Even after the new SSA back end, they can still be large. I hadn’t thought to run Flent on embedded hardware, so there isn’t a performance impact from running the test code itself on the hardware you’re testing. But that’s true, if it needs to sometimes, then Go doesn’t work.

>> It’s not critical, but why am I able to see this level of reduction
>> when there’s already fq-codel in the driver? 25ms is very good, I only
>> wonder where I’m getting the extra 10-15ms from, out of interest. :)
>> 
>> The driver queues up two aggregates beneath the queue to keep the
>> hardware busy. It may be possible to improve slightly upon this, but we
>> have not gotten around to trying yet.
>> 
>> Ok, if rtt were about half of 25ms there would be almost no argument
>> for external rate limiting. Even as it is now, I question what
>> difference the user sees between 12ms and 25ms latency for Internet
>> traffic. It also makes me more interested to see results for Chaos
>> Calmer with fq_codel applied on the Wi-Fi device without limiting.
> 
> Yup, exactly. We want to get to the point where you'll have no reason to
> do any rate limiting.

That reminds me, is there any way to disable fq-codel in the ath9k driver, and revert to being able to use the qdisc layer without limiting? Then I could do this testing without having to install Chaos Calmer, and it could avoid some re-flashing in case I need to re-test something in the new driver code again.

I picked up 2x NanoStation M5 and 2x of FreeNet’s older APUs (https://pcengines.ch/alix2d2.htm <https://pcengines.ch/alix2d2.htm>), and should add more results soon. I also hope to try some of their more modern hardware, as the APUs in particular are a bit ancient, but I'll see if it becomes available.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-08 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-30 21:21 Pete Heist
2017-01-30 21:44 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-01-30 22:48   ` Aaron Wood
2017-02-01 14:53     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-01-30 23:21   ` Dave Taht
2017-01-31 16:40     ` Pete Heist
2017-02-14  8:56     ` Pete Heist
2017-02-15 23:03       ` Dave Täht
2017-02-16  7:57         ` Pete Heist
2017-02-16  8:42           ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] " Sebastian Moeller
2017-02-16  9:17             ` Pete Heist
2017-02-16 16:15               ` Aaron Wood
2017-02-16 16:21                 ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-02-16 16:51                   ` Pete Heist
2017-02-16 17:19                     ` Jonathan Morton
2017-02-16 19:05                       ` Pete Heist
2017-02-16 20:54                         ` Pete Heist
2017-02-16 21:03                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2017-02-17  7:53                         ` Pete Heist
2017-02-17  9:52                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-02-19 15:25       ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Dave Taht
2017-01-31 15:52   ` Pete Heist
2017-02-01 14:48     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-02-02  8:25       ` Pete Heist
2017-02-07 11:57         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-02-08 15:26           ` Pete Heist [this message]
2017-02-08 16:11             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-02-08 16:35               ` Dave Taht
2017-02-08 17:10                 ` Dave Taht
2017-02-08 17:11                   ` Dave Taht
2017-02-09  8:35                 ` Pete Heist
2017-02-09  7:45               ` Pete Heist
2017-02-09 13:51                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-02-09 14:20                   ` Pete Heist
2017-02-09 14:44                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-02-10  7:51                       ` Pete Heist
2017-02-08 18:29             ` [Make-wifi-fast] [Cake] " John Yates
2017-01-30 23:55 ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Dave Taht
2017-01-31 16:58   ` Pete Heist

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