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From: Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>
To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: [Make-wifi-fast] Where is the bloat in WiFi?
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 13:25:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <D825F3B5-4190-4036-AA5B-598C004A4412@ifi.uio.no> (raw)

Hi all,

A simple question to y'all who spent so much time on Cake and things ...   in a household using WiFi, which buffer is usually bloated? Where does the latency really come from?

Is it:
1. the access point's downlink queue, feeding into the WiFi network,
2. the modem's downlink queue, feeding into the access point,
3. the modem's uplink queue,
4. the access point's uplink queue towards the modem   (hm, that seems silly, surely the AP-modem connection is fast... so perhaps, instead: the queue in the host, as it wants to send data towards the access point)

or is it a combination of these?

I guess that, with openwrt, Cake is operating on the queue that's feeding the wifi network, as the modem's queue is out of its control... so: is this where the bottleneck usually is?

Just wondering about your views and experiences.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Michael

--
PS: my personal guess: 1 and 3 above are the most common. But that's *pure* guesswork!


             reply	other threads:[~2020-10-06 11:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-06 11:25 Michael Welzl [this message]
2020-10-06 11:47 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-06 12:15   ` Michael Welzl
2020-10-06 12:44     ` Sebastian Moeller
2020-10-06 12:44     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2020-10-06 13:21       ` Jonathan Morton
2020-10-06 13:24       ` Michael Welzl
2020-10-07  0:10         ` Bob McMahon
2020-10-06 13:09     ` Luca Muscariello

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