From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from wizmail.org (wizmail.org [IPv6:2a00:1940:107::2:0:0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03EE93B2A4 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2016 09:04:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from [2a00:b900:109e:0:c5d6:c61b:f5e0:b51f] (helo=lap.dom.ain) by wizmail.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87_RC123) id 1cFLmn-00086R-Bv for make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net (return-path ); Fri, 09 Dec 2016 14:04:29 +0000 To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <9BA0F7D8-5A25-4033-A101-38BF001B74EB@gmail.com> From: Jeremy Harris Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 14:04:25 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pcms-Received-Sender: [2a00:b900:109e:0:c5d6:c61b:f5e0:b51f] (helo=lap.dom.ain) with esmtpsa Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Software rate limiting with fq_codel for point-to-point WiFi backhaul links X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 14:04:32 -0000 On 09/12/16 13:41, David Lang wrote: > The whole mess of estimating bandwidth and throttling to keep below that > estimate is only needed when the device(s) that you have control over > are not the ones directly adjacent to the bottleneck. Would you be better-off if the bottleneck did CE-marking and you used ECN-capable protocols and ECN-enabled endpoint network stacks? -- Cheers, Jeremy