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On 4/12/2020 1:17 PM, Dave Taht wrote:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rmcat-wireless-tests-11

I'm more interested in testing with actual APs and STAs than simulators.
What are folks using to generate RTP video traffic for testing?

The spec seems light on expected results for Wi-Fi cases.

3.2.4, bullet 1: "The end-to-end delay and packet loss ratio experienced by each flow should be within an acceptable range for real-time multimedia applications". And what would those be?
It also specs no video stats, like dropped frames