From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bifrost.lang.hm (lang.hm [66.167.227.134]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 849813BA8E for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 20:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from asgard.lang.hm (asgard.lang.hm [10.0.0.100]) by bifrost.lang.hm (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id w3Q0ZDIZ026187; Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:35:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 17:35:13 -0700 (PDT) From: David Lang X-X-Sender: dlang@asgard.lang.hm To: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Toke_H=F8iland-J=F8rgensen?= cc: Pete Heist , make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net In-Reply-To: <87po2o7lwb.fsf@toke.dk> Message-ID: References: <66BDCA6E-D7C4-4E76-8591-8FDC35B09EA3@eventide.io> <871sf495vs.fsf@toke.dk> <87po2o7lwb.fsf@toke.dk> User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="680960-1176510505-1524702914=:12043" Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] mesh deployment with ath9k driver changes X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 00:35:17 -0000 This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --680960-1176510505-1524702914=:12043 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Tue, 24 Apr 2018, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote: >> I wish I could cable everything, but it isn’t physically practical. >> The next possibility is dual channel APs, or separate backhaul links, >> all costing something... > > Yeah, a separate backhaul on a different channel would cut you > contention in half, basically. Right now, each transmission has to > occupy the channel twice... worse than that, it causes grief on other stations further away that can hear one station and not the other. Splitting things so that user access is on 2.4G and relaying between APs is on 5G will help quite a bit. If you can add some directional antennas on 5G, it will help as well Even without being able to wire everything, if you have any that you can wire together it will help --680960-1176510505-1524702914=:12043--