[Make-wifi-fast] Reform of the ietf recall process

[Make-wifi-fast] Reform of the ietf recall process

[Dave Taht]

is here: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moonesamy-recall-rev-01

To me, this still doesn't go far enough. I think that everyone that
has ever got an RFC published deserves a vote.

   The first four paragraphs of Section 7.1 of [RFC7437] are replaced by
   the following:

   At any time, at least 10 members of the IETF community, may request
   by signed petition (email is acceptable) to the Internet Society
   President the recall of any sitting IAB or IESG member, IETF Trustee
   or IETF LLC Director.  All signatories must have registered to attend
   and have participated physically or remotely at least three out of
   the previous five IETF meetings.

   Each signature must include a full name, email address, and primary
   company or organization affiliation.  No more than two signatories
   may have the same primary affiliation.

   The IETF Secretariat is responsible for confirming that each
   signatory is qualified.  A valid petition must be signed by qualified
   signatories as specified in this section.



---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>
Date: Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 6:10 PM
Subject: AD Sponsorship of draft-moonesamy-recall-rev
To: <chair@ietf.org>, <iesg@ietf.org>
Cc: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, <ietf@ietf.org>


Dear General Area Director,

In March, I sent a message to the IETF discussion list about the
recall process.  As you are probably aware, there was a lively
discussion on the subject.  I submitted an I-D [1] about the
subject.  There were a comments on the I-D and they were addressed in
draft-moonesamy-recall-rev-01

I am enquiring about whether you, or any other Area Director, would
like to sponsor the I-D or whether you would like a proposal for a
working group to look into the draft and other related issues.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy

1. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moonesamy-recall-rev-01



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Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] Reform of the ietf recall process

[Valdis Klētnieks]

On Fri, 05 Apr 2019 18:19:19 +0200, Dave Taht said:

>    or IETF LLC Director.  All signatories must have registered to attend
>    and have participated physically or remotely at least three out of
>    the previous five IETF meetings.

Well... that rules me out, I've never actually made it to an IETF or NANOG. But
that "must have attended a physical meeting" has been there for ages now.

>    Each signature must include a full name, email address, and primary
>    company or organization affiliation.

Wait, what?  I need an affiliation?  At the moment I'm officially retired, does
that mean that even if I made it to meetings I have no say?

Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Cerowrt-devel] Reform of the ietf recall process

[Dave Taht]

On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 11:33 PM Valdis Klētnieks
<valdis.kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 05 Apr 2019 18:19:19 +0200, Dave Taht said:
>
> >    or IETF LLC Director.  All signatories must have registered to attend
> >    and have participated physically or remotely at least three out of
> >    the previous five IETF meetings.
>
> Well... that rules me out, I've never actually made it to an IETF or NANOG. But
> that "must have attended a physical meeting" has been there for ages now.
>
> >    Each signature must include a full name, email address, and primary
> >    company or organization affiliation.
>
> Wait, what?  I need an affiliation?  At the moment I'm officially retired, does
> that mean that even if I made it to meetings I have no say?

I would rather like it if retirees were welcomed in the IETF in
various roles and with no affiliation  except a love for the internet


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Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] [Cerowrt-devel] Reform of the ietf recall process

[Mikael Abrahamsson]

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On Fri, 5 Apr 2019, Valdis Klētnieks wrote:

>>    Each signature must include a full name, email address, and primary
>>    company or organization affiliation.
>
> Wait, what?  I need an affiliation?  At the moment I'm officially retired, does
> that mean that even if I made it to meetings I have no say?

Generally people in the IETF are acting as individuals, not 
representatives of a company. If you put in "INTERNET!!!" as affiliation 
I'm pretty sure nobody would care.

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