From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp78.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (smtp78.iad3a.emailsrvr.com [173.203.187.78]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B61921FB86 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 2015 03:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp26.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp26.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8648480383; Thu, 1 Oct 2015 06:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp26.relay.iad3a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: dpreed-AT-reed.com) with ESMTPSA id 3659E80364; Thu, 1 Oct 2015 06:33:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Sender-Id: dpreed@reed.com Received: from [192.168.192.95] (209-6-168-90.c3-0.ned-ubr1.sbo-ned.ma.cable.rcn.com [209.6.168.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:465 (trex/5.4.2); Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:33:20 GMT User-Agent: K-@ Mail X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <21167.1443646296@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> References: <49d53a3e-b7a0-4069-a87b-d9778bb8a229@reed.com> <16684.1443643019@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> <21167.1443646296@turing-police.cc.vt.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----S75L7U0KVBCDMMR5I68H3XJZUBNN4D" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "David P. Reed" Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 06:33:19 -0400 To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,Christopher Waid Message-ID: Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net, fcc@lists.prplfoundation.org Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [FCC] [Cerowrt-devel] some comments from elsewhere on the lockdown X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2015 10:33:45 -0000 ------S75L7U0KVBCDMMR5I68H3XJZUBNN4D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love copy left thinking=2E I worry that I can't sign something so provoca= tive, because it invokes regulatory overreach=2E The letter is taking a t= otalitarian turn, asking government to go beyond choice=2E I thought we wer= e reducing the power of the FCC Iintitution, but now it is a call for extre= me control=2E Instead of innovation it seeks control over innovators=2E O= n Sep 30, 2015, Valdis=2EKletnieks@vt=2Eedu wrote: >On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 16:= 11:38 -0400, Christopher Waid said: > >> > Apparently, they were of the opi= nion that the mere fact that I >might >> > die of a heart attack a year aft= er distributing something doesn't >> > excuse me from complying=2E) >> >> I= don't know if it does excuse you from complying, but I say good >luck >> t= o the person trying to get it enforced=2E > >They could quite possibly hass= le the executor of my estate if they were >sufficiently determined=2E > >Bu= t given that abandonware (both software and hardware) is a big chunk >of th= e problem, we really *do* need to address the problem of companies >that ca= n't provide patches because they've gone under=2E Possibly a >requirement = that they open-source the hardware/software if possible? >(That's another c= an-o-worms - consider that a big chunk of why NVidia >doesn't open-source t= heir proprietary graphics drivers is because >there's >a lot of OpenGL-rela= ted patents and trade secrets that Microsoft bought >when >there was the bi= g fire sale when SGI got out of the graphics market - >so >it's quite possi= ble that a vendor *can't* open-source it when they go >under due to licensi= ng issues=2E=2E=2E) -- Sent with K-@ Mail - the evolution of emailing=2E ------S75L7U0KVBCDMMR5I68H3XJZUBNN4D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love copy left thinking=2E I worry that I can't = sign something so provocative, because it invokes regulatory overreach=2E <= br clear=3D"none">
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On Sep 30, 2015, Valdis=2EKletnieks@vt=2Eedu wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep=
 2015 16:11:38 -0400, Christopher Waid said:

Apparently, they were of the opinion th= at the mere fact that I might
die of a heart attack a yea= r after distributing something doesn't
excuse me from com= plying=2E)

I don't know if it does excuse yo= u from complying, but I say good luck
to the person tryin= g to get it enforced=2E

They could quite pos= sibly hassle the executor of my estate if they were
suffi= ciently determined=2E

But given that a= bandonware (both software and hardware) is a big chunk
of= the problem, we really *do* need to address the problem of companies
that can't provide patches because they've gone under=2E Poss= ibly a
requirement that they open-source the hardware/sof= tware if possible?
(That's another can-o-worms - consider= that a big chunk of why NVidia
doesn't open-source their= proprietary graphics drivers is because there's
a lot of= OpenGL-related patents and trade secrets that Microsoft bought when
there was the big fire sale when SGI got out of the graphics ma= rket - so
it's quite possible that a vendor *can't* open-= source it when they go
under due to licensing issues=2E= =2E=2E)

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