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[192.138.137.97]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p77sm2453093iod.35.2016.12.02.10.41.12 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Dec 2016 10:41:12 -0800 (PST) To: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net References: From: Noah Causin Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:41:11 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.5.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------409682BC73A70F5E0105A34B" Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches X-BeenThere: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 18:41:14 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------409682BC73A70F5E0105A34B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Are you using the dual-dsthost and dual-srchost options? If so, try removing those settings from SQM and uncheck all the checkboxes you selected to reach them. Then try a test on Ethernet with SQM on. Noah On 12/2/2016 1:14 PM, Jon Pike wrote: > Hello all... > > Well, with medical issues, and having a busy week, I didn't get back > right away. Here's the DSLReports Speedtest runs I took. > > My results here are pretty variable, so I don't know how trustworthy > they are or how worth while to you guys, vs FLENT runs. > The lower block is using Toke's 11-18 C7 FW build, the upper block is > with the 11-24 build. > > Upshot, on my Archer C7, both ran for days with no apparent issues, > on my home network. Interesting note, I ran both the C7 v2 and the > C7 v3, both ran fine. So, if you end up with a v3, it shouldn't be > an issue. Further side note, the different configuration of the v3 > model, with both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz on the external "rabbit ears" > antennas, seems to have a bit stronger signal on 2.4Ghz on the other > end of my house, than the v2 model that has 3 separate, small 2.4Ghz > antennas inside the box. Caveat, my testing of that wasn't very > thourough.. > > My overall home network setup is: Cox cable - SB6146 modem - Archer > C7 router - various clients. I did testing on a PC plugged directely > in a eth port of the C7, to PC's using Netgear Netgear WNA3100 N300, > and A6200 AC1200 USB adapters. > > Below are the links to DSLReports, on the tests. Most have cake, and > piece of cake, and Noah's suggested settings, with speed caps of 55 > and 5 mbit. My cable is supposed to be 60/6, I see 65 often, with > wild speed variation on the UL, settling to 5-6mbits. > > I have the Speedtest settings set for hi res bufferbloat, test time > extended to 20sec, which is about as long as you can go without > pushing the start of the test off the end of that graph. > > Let me know if this is in any way useful, or what I can do to make it > more worth looking at. It seems so variable and random, that I wonder > about the worth, as well as you don't get a good look at what the > latencey is over time, vs FLENT. > > ------------------------------------------- > eth0 to router - no SQM > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6656688 Starts near 60, plateau > 64-65 (hits 66) then drops to 52-54 at the 10sec mark. UL hits 18, > before falling down to a 4.5-5.5 average Bloat C > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657058 very similar, but bloat > an A this time > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657916 " Bloat a C this time > > > now C7 V2, with Toke 11-24 FW SQM 55/5 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659367 51.2 1.65, bloat B > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659493 52.4 3.01 bloat A peak > of 300-400ms on all including idle? > > -------------------------------- > Earlier tests with Toke's 11-18 FW, SQM 55/5 mbits > > 2.4Ghz N adapter Netgear WNA3100 N300 adapter > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440808 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440846 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440864 > > > 2.4Ghz AC adapter Netgear A6200 AC1200 adapter > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440940 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440963 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440987 > > 5Ghz AC adapter Netgear A6200 AC1200 adapter > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441015 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441038 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441056 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441132 (first A grade of the batch) > > eth1 to C7 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441483 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441570 > > http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441586 > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Jon Pike > > To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" > > Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > > Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 21:58:46 -0800 > Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches > > Wish I wasn't out of town still... I could have got some time with > the new one. Had been running the 11-18 build version of yours, on a > C7 v2 in my mixed home network enviroment. N devices, AC devices, a > semi rogue N range extender, all running WPA2-AES. > > I did see some occasional large amounts of bloat, most of the time > good behavior. Occasional odd, regular thru put drops to 1/4 speed. > I mentioned this in earlier posts, have done some more detailed > testing since, that's at home and unavailable till I'm home again. > You could see a few DSLReports logs in my posts. > > Hope that helps... > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Make-wifi-fast mailing list > Make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/make-wifi-fast --------------409682BC73A70F5E0105A34B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Are you using the dual-dsthost and dual-srchost options?  If so, try removing those settings from SQM and uncheck all the checkboxes you selected to reach them.

Then try a test on Ethernet with SQM on.

Noah


On 12/2/2016 1:14 PM, Jon Pike wrote:
Hello all...

Well, with medical issues, and having a busy week,  I didn't get back right away.  Here's the DSLReports Speedtest runs I took.

My results here are pretty variable,  so I don't know how trustworthy they are or how worth while to you guys,  vs  FLENT runs.
The lower block is using Toke's 11-18 C7 FW build,  the upper block is with the 11-24 build.

Upshot,  on my Archer C7,  both ran for days with no apparent issues,  on my home network.  Interesting note,  I ran both the C7 v2 and the C7 v3,  both ran fine.  So, if you end up with a v3,  it shouldn't be an issue.  Further side note,  the different configuration of the v3 model,  with both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz on the external "rabbit ears" antennas, seems to have a bit stronger signal on 2.4Ghz on the other end of my house,  than the v2 model that has 3 separate, small 2.4Ghz antennas inside the box.  Caveat,  my testing of that wasn't very thourough..

My overall home network setup is:  Cox cable - SB6146 modem - Archer C7 router - various clients.   I did testing on a PC plugged directely in a eth port of the C7,  to PC's using Netgear Netgear WNA3100  N300, and A6200 AC1200 USB adapters.

Below are the links to DSLReports,  on the tests.  Most have cake, and piece of cake, and Noah's suggested settings, with speed caps of 55 and 5 mbit.  My cable is supposed to be 60/6,  I see 65 often, with wild speed variation on the UL, settling to 5-6mbits.

I have the Speedtest settings set for hi res bufferbloat,  test time extended to 20sec, which is about as long as you can go without pushing the start of the test off the end of that graph.

Let me know if this is in any way useful,  or what I can do to make it more worth looking at.  It seems so variable and random, that I wonder about the worth,  as well as you don't get a good look at what the latencey is over time,  vs FLENT.

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eth0 to router   -  no SQM

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6656688  Starts near 60, plateau 64-65 (hits 66) then drops to 52-54 at the 10sec mark. UL hits 18, before falling down to a 4.5-5.5 average  Bloat C

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657058  very similar,  but bloat an A this time

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657916    "        Bloat a C this time


now C7 V2, with Toke 11-24 FW  SQM 55/5

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659367 51.2 1.65, bloat B

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659493 52.4 3.01  bloat A  peak of 300-400ms  on all including idle?

--------------------------------
Earlier tests with Toke's 11-18 FW,  SQM 55/5 mbits

2.4Ghz N adapter  Netgear WNA3100  N300 adapter

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440808

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440846

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440864


2.4Ghz AC adapter  Netgear A6200 AC1200 adapter

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440940

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440963

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440987

5Ghz AC adapter  Netgear A6200 AC1200 adapter

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441015

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441038

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441056

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441132   (first A grade of the batch)

eth1 to C7

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441483

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441570

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441586


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jon Pike <jonpike54@gmail.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 21:58:46 -0800
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches

Wish I wasn't out of town still...  I could have got some time with the new one.  Had been running the 11-18 build version of yours,  on a C7 v2 in my mixed home network enviroment.  N devices, AC devices,  a semi rogue N range extender, all running WPA2-AES.

I did see some occasional large amounts of bloat,  most of the time good behavior.  Occasional odd, regular thru put drops to 1/4 speed.   I mentioned this in earlier posts,  have done some more detailed testing since,  that's at home and unavailable  till I'm home again.  You could see a few DSLReports logs in my posts.

Hope that helps...





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