From: Rajkumar Manoharan <rmanohar@codeaurora.org>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net,
Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>, Kan Yan <kyan@google.com>,
linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC v4 1/4] mac80211: Add TXQ scheduling API
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2018 11:51:43 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <efa33810860b2e5db789a76747bb826b@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o9cvksiv.fsf@toke.dk>
On 2018-09-18 03:29, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> Rajkumar Manoharan <rmanohar@codeaurora.org> writes:
>
>> On 2018-09-16 10:42, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> return_txq() should return a bool to inform the driver that whether
>> txq is queued back or not.
>
> What would the driver do with that return value, exactly?
>
never mind.. got lost with earlier schedule_txq API.
>> Otherwise the same txq will be served indefinitely until txq becomes
>> empty. This problem occurs when the driver is running out of hw
>> descriptors or driver sends only N frames (< backlog_packets).
>
> No, if it's using next_txq(), the API guarantees that the same TXQ will
> not be returned more than once between a set of calls to
> schedule_start()/schedule_end() (by way of the seqno mechanism). I
> didn't add the same check to may_transmit(), because I assumed the
> driver would not be looping in this case. Is that not correct?
>
Yeah.. you are correct. sorry for the noise.
>> Also an option to add the node at head or tail would be preferred. If
>> return_txq adds node at head of list, then it is forcing the driver to
>> serve same txq until it becomes empty. Also this will not allow the
>> driver to send N frames from each txqs.
>
> The whole point of this patch set is to move those kinds of decisions
> out of the driver and into mac80211. The airtime scheduler won't
> achieve
> fairness if it allows queues to be queued to the end of the rotation
> before its deficit turns negative. And obviously there's some lag in
> this since we're using after-the-fact airtime information.
>
Hmm.. As you know ath10k kind of doing fairness by serving fixed frames
from each txq. This approach will be removed from ath10k.
> For ath9k this has not really been a problem in my tests; if the lag
> turns out to be too great for ath10k (which I suppose is a possibility
> since we don't get airtime information on every TX-compl), I figure we
> can use the same estimated airtime value that is used for throttling
> the
> queues to adjust the deficit immediately...
>
Thats true. I am porting Kan's changes of airtime estimation for each
msdu
for firmware that does not report airtime.
-Rajkumar
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-09-18 18:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-16 17:42 [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC v4 0/4] Move TXQ scheduling into mac80211 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-16 17:42 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC v4 4/4] ath9k: Switch to mac80211 TXQ scheduling and airtime APIs Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-16 17:42 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC v4 3/4] mac80211: Add airtime accounting and scheduling to TXQs Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-26 7:09 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-09-26 9:22 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-27 0:09 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-09-28 5:29 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-09-28 7:51 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-28 9:27 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-09-28 9:44 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-09-28 9:58 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-28 10:19 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-09-28 10:35 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-09-28 10:47 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-09-28 11:02 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-28 19:51 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-10-02 6:58 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-10-02 7:41 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-10-02 8:22 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-10-02 16:33 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-10-02 19:00 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-10-02 23:07 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-10-03 5:53 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-10-03 6:27 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-10-03 8:41 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-16 17:42 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC v4 1/4] mac80211: Add TXQ scheduling API Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-18 0:57 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-09-18 10:29 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-18 18:51 ` Rajkumar Manoharan [this message]
2018-09-18 20:41 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-18 21:30 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-09-19 9:09 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-19 14:43 ` Kalle Valo
2018-09-19 14:50 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-19 16:54 ` Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-09-16 17:42 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC v4 2/4] cfg80211: Add airtime statistics and settings Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-20 21:29 ` [Make-wifi-fast] [PATCH RFC v4 0/4] Move TXQ scheduling into mac80211 Rajkumar Manoharan
2018-09-21 12:41 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
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