From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sonic311-24.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic311-24.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.188.205]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEB603B29D for ; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:30:14 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=verizon.net; s=a2048; t=1584725414; bh=N33RbKQxlanwAvxPcRiduwgewn0Q96GW0FQ9ZQFkfpI=; h=From:Subject:Date:To:References:From:Subject; b=AqckaZcm0fO1lhNACosG0LWbAQxHsgQwBRRJT+PTJ8LC1PMvBE60GeUR7DoIoVXUtw4mt2FZYqc5xv4Jor1dTRGZxwtLurh9RNO/6MQmHSitToBnEksYaygt69+gYaGL9mOwbteVS3h3OeHid6xJwGzofFszxSym0kw0KIiWxVZ//p1sNNleGj9q0Ib4A0LSXCGy3Gtbf6LR7rW1XPXmJy9d2mHSGM6DWWnkM3Hzmlqv0NHDHG2wJX8xoAGr5V38JxIOo651kQAyTmDLRvVLEoxt9LNsLpMdiPALmPAjqe3u4rBHIjBSE9pNLWqnZiE+53KojH9cyKw4WE4slh4SKQ== X-YMail-OSG: cRBcKEEVM1ngny8fLZBcjBM02v8IUywspU_L077H9tT90Kzv8JY4M2OW1WlnmXk qfUNmKf3wovI6.zEaw7sAo2CoulAHptLSpyt5DGixL2CQ7EzOg5CtHJe8ftYcyKUerEljpL7vmfw JUhnSttQriWDYHol5zc13VfYJ.jMaTaLhGeCmusiFX5a9tgadIMguWD9EQBAg56DH5PJfH4U2zoZ BVik0XMx.2QHAhM2iZ1GhgJG6QBZdFRoSDjsEyG9kZT4YAstLb5KFJ7ljImWV7N_VJC0qpyIWvhQ _LEufrupM6VvcNZ0Rt1WOO8ZgHkVm023vNG0SBVxjEV9EVBiqa8cPQ5pRabzhwxG7zcKLTSwjV00 2MaOBhl08sKu.2EgrBe93eVqrAQHPDg7FJUlx1ACgDsliJA0Z348dDRGt21jFIjDQddfThiOSlpa Gu7u8lbn32tLRnN2vZ2XiBxJ9R6sn6LskSBX_AX2XXdUsR8nY97ad4RWCAk...PaWfSTHkmZeS_X WNEVhNS5WUq1VM4Mtihp5pCJ5PodnXkCRXn5qBfcLOgT48XI_8IunP9z_uMkVJZWH8HHj9c2cike JEHx1CEUwdU6fzE2CB0CcPQ7PJimsnKhffGle4P8kZ0hhKGH53ymWojQl5YvQMzMsg815yX17hl. uCph15Cf1NrgGm2hF79Kn9evFRR6unLa0A7HhLbbuEmDY3FZ2tV8dR5n2IWI2TaWipIxnFqwGkOR XQyZZaNXoI5n5gkE91BDRygZxiIGEu7B1R_eEKMRTk11uwSIMSwAubjA_XXqck11n16knz6Fjq66 DXhtFzyiPGOz_F1ucpJVQFguuQXjKtHUSeMi2ZFlSuh95V8jPOQ9pe51wZ8xbNPJa5zsgfNqcgMU VLr9nK0kfC6KXme6G0agAxDtxDP4uPx9vqTVHW8uuVRUoqvYRirBIlijR0ptPiVCsYFXaLKiN0n1 U_ywyoc1ar.gFZhrGUcmxlktuhSebn_62RgsagnrxM1FUQlk3Ot4GhzLgXc19RgUjn8ujuRNiVrJ AosXQd0_ZhYZUMyvN7HN1.afxoyoljlUvgih21f7.iSQYrpanXOfHfy7IBRmWCU7tnUTR5wwWB1s ibjZcTW7bsUOtfug0HQpudCjrdZYz.BB3AQ7I90kX3b0MEYAjO983F8l5KmHKa6Ip8XxeodKLEf2 nh0theBhVhXfkVTXcBkQaZb8K0n5hDd_gp5JgaTvBeJvzczO5kLdSEv3rRMc9f2jeg_w3wSEr7Eu TOdtlLUzko5avkTNQNuJJvq9Vsv4IcLoAnRVcYNmRdGzgPAx76brazSXOvtoiB.NegZcfcvgDFFV UdXLRTZdMX76JRz0Dzvyrf2FFlO0ynYEf.SZa6QkjCbY5AjXENCyp49aZwFE_b2UaFWM2ZGWanA- - Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:30:14 +0000 Received: by smtp419.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 1d246618c40287a2379091a5b772210f; Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:30:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Rob HYDE X-Mailbutler-Message-Id: 26B90134-F226-440E-9D84-52E44BEB75E3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_63064566-CB1E-4C54-937A-D7E86199EB4D" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.0 \(3608.60.0.2.5\)) Message-Id: <4AE04EFE-C234-4D97-A452-A0043D331E7B@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:29:55 -0400 To: n95mask@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.60.0.2.5) References: <4AE04EFE-C234-4D97-A452-A0043D331E7B.ref@verizon.net> Subject: [N95mask] SoClean NOT FDA approved and possibly harmful! per 2/27/2020 X-BeenThere: n95mask@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Disposable N95 mask sterilization List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 17:30:15 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_63064566-CB1E-4C54-937A-D7E86199EB4D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Just found this, which is bad: = https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-reminds-patients-d= evices-claiming-clean-disinfect-or-sanitize-cpap-machines-using-ozone-gas-= or = It basically says that not only is a machine like the SoClean not = FDA approved and illegally marketed, but that the ozone is dangerous.=20 =F0=9F=98=9F I had the same thought of using the SoCLean to clean respirators and = talked to a bottom-line CSR this morning. Of course she said the = =E2=80=9Cmachine is not compatible with respirators,=E2=80=9D as she = would have to say for liability. She was unable to explain how it might = =E2=80=98hurt the machine,=E2=80=9D and that an engineer would need to = explain that. I did ask her to send the idea/question up the chain, and = emphasized ti could be very good for the company if it could be done. = reuse-of-disposable-medical-masks-during-flu-pandemic-not-recommended-reus= ing-respirators-is-complicated = PMC5432778 = this research appears to be commercially sponsored (conflict of = interest) --Apple-Mail=_63064566-CB1E-4C54-937A-D7E86199EB4D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Just found this, which is bad: https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-reminds= -patients-devices-claiming-clean-disinfect-or-sanitize-cpap-machines-using= -ozone-gas-or It basically says that not only is = a machine like the SoClean not FDA approved and illegally marketed, but = that the ozone is dangerous. 

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I had the same thought of using the = SoCLean to clean respirators and talked to a bottom-line CSR this = morning. Of course she said the =E2=80=9Cmachine is not compatible with = respirators,=E2=80=9D as she would have to say for liability. She was = unable to explain how it might =E2=80=98hurt the machine,=E2=80=9D and = that an engineer would need to explain that. I did ask her to send the = idea/question up the chain, and emphasized ti could be very good for the = company if it could be done. reuse-of-disposable-medical-masks-during-flu-pandemic-not-recom= mended-reusing-respirators-is-complicated

 PMC5432778  this research appears to be commercially = sponsored (conflict of interest)


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