From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bosmailout10.eigbox.net (bosmailout10.eigbox.net [66.96.189.10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E325B3CB37 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:59:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from bosmailscan06.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.6]) by bosmailout10.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1rHUdG-0005ty-9m for nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:59:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alum.mit.edu; s=dkim; h=Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Cc:To:From: Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender :Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=lyg/jldvFbDEIz33JJ4g+fDHzbqcG30+OFfeuzIrf9c=; b=aOUlCnhN38jPFq+UXbzpc1s3WA Q7qj8EuYNa/gLYJFCOMk3Mmq5jteUeVed++2hu0CHrWRL1oU8USWWyiRJLP/V+60viDuGNSZ8ARzU C1GSptsaGfgWAy/vtmqXqFSq7bfxxvBAFByqtVFCwFeu4uglK9i/+Sp1/ulnArIE8oLCYEfI5pEBC v2P/xuEWXG14H5dGBtUyL8PS88GnHMIt//TN6A2pkMAREKV/wBeRNIBF+YtrHAp9IAT/o4jiHXajy mOEQ8sP0SK/V2fjIuZ14cYZcBzpV8WRNeupYbu5ky8Ma7NsZV03TUpyCzCD/tsoYCTe/wZ93DbHV5 OHLFoKEA==; Received: from [10.115.3.32] (helo=bosimpout12) by bosmailscan06.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1rHUdG-0004Co-26 for nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:59:30 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.20.18.3]) by bosimpout12 with id SKzS2B00703yW7601KzVku; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:59:30 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=dOg9ZNRb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=6uKCkKhFq2wXOH2GoQX8aA==:117 a=tKttg/DTfI8zZz0UFxdR5w==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=e2cXIFwxEfEA:10 a=kurRqvosAAAA:8 a=jJrOw3FHAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=tfBpS8uRAAAA:8 a=9sSjY8p1AAAA:8 a=Wyk0o-IUjAiwvyHyVNkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=-FEs8UIgK8oA:10 a=kbxRQ_lfPIoQnHsAj2-A:22 a=ub54wNWiXv_DzeFsgEJW:22 Received: from c-73-158-253-41.hsd1.ca.comcast.net ([73.158.253.41]:51781 helo=SRA6) by bosauthsmtp03.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1rHUdC-00011z-I1; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:59:26 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Dick Roy" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?'Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=B4s_make_the_technical_as?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?pects_heard_this_time!'?= References: <90af82cb117d06391af330cf993a0192@rjmcmahon.com> In-Reply-To: <90af82cb117d06391af330cf993a0192@rjmcmahon.com> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 11:59:23 -0800 Organization: SRA Message-ID: <054A21BC13084BB195BF53C024673800@SRA6> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ado2nLMxNvurUhtYQGOo273kf5xiawABujBA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE X-EN-UserInfo: f809475445fb8041985048e338e1a001:931c98230c6409dcc37fa7e93b490c27 X-EN-AuthUser: dickroy@intellicommunications.com Sender: "Dick Roy" X-EN-OrigIP: 73.158.253.41 X-EN-OrigHost: c-73-158-253-41.hsd1.ca.comcast.net Subject: Re: [NNagain] science and reading scores peaked in 2009 and 2012 X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 19:59:30 -0000 Hi Bob, ... well said! And Merry Christmas to you and yours! RR -----Original Message----- From: Nnagain [mailto:nnagain-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf = Of rjmcmahon via Nnagain Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2023 11:09 AM To: Network Neutrality is back! Let=B4s make the technical aspects heard = this time! Cc: rjmcmahon Subject: Re: [NNagain] science and reading scores peaked in 2009 and = 2012 Hi Dave, Merry Christmas! It think you're right in that connection is a fundamental need for all=20 mammals, including humans. The internet and devise aren't the source of the issues you describe.=20 It's more likely addiction. Maybe play these videos on the plane. https://youtu.be/oyvFVsTUQS8?feature=3Dshared The antidote to addiction is compassion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D11U0h0DPu7k The internet can be a vehicle towards supporting others. It's really our = choice on how we each spend 86,400 given per day. Spending some of it on = connection with family & friends can be hard for many. I hope we each=20 spend it that way today! https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/638920-imagine-there-is-a-bank-account-t= hat -credits-your-account =93Imagine there is a bank account that credits your account each = morning=20 with $86,400. It carries over no balance from day to day. Every evening=20 the bank deletes whatever part of the balance you failed to used during=20 the day. What would you do? Draw out every cent, of course? Each of us=20 has such a bank, it's name is time. Every morning, it credits you 86,400 = seconds. Every night it writes off at a lost, whatever of this you=20 failed to invest to a good purpose. It carries over no balance. It=20 allows no over draft. Each day it opens a new account for you. Each=20 night it burns the remains of the day. If you fail to use the day's=20 deposits, the loss is yours. There is no drawing against "tomorrow". You = must live in the present on today's deposits. Invest it so as to get=20 from it the utmost in health, happiness, and health. The clock is=20 running. Make the most of today.=94 Bob > Not that slashdot is a particularly good source, but I do read the=20 > atlantic... >=20 > https://news.slashdot.org/story/23/12/23/0544206/are-phones-making-the-wo= rld s-students-dumber >=20 > In my case I was just on two American planes where absolutely everyone > was on their phone, tablet, or laptop. In one walk to the bathroom at > the back of the plane, in the middle of the afternoon, there were > three conversations going on, about 5% people working, the rest all > watching a different show (not a single shared experience). I sat next > to someone from an VR company that did project management there who > spent the entire trip texting (with TWO phones) over the viasat > service ($15/hr) to dozens and dozens of people. Max time off the > phone was no more than 15 seconds, long enough to open a cracker. She > seemed to never have an internet issue (though with all the > multitasking perhaps the latencies were hidden). I finally got a word > in edgewise on landing... I had great hope she knew what a packet was, > but she didn=B4t. She grokked "latency", had not heard of bufferbloat. >=20 > The new movie Maestro is really excellent, btw. I watched some of it > from between the seats ahead of me, with my head otherwise down trying > to block out all the internet access around me. >=20 > While I worry all the more about all we have done to humanity=B4s > ability to communicate physically and with strangers I wish y'all a > merry christmas and a happy new year, with your families! _______________________________________________ Nnagain mailing list Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain