From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from secmail.pch.net (secmail.pch.net [206.220.231.87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 054973B29D for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2023 04:44:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from secmail.pch.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by secmail.pch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SjhhW0HnMz4xSZf for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2023 01:44:11 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: secmail.pch.net (amavisd-new); dkim=pass reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=pch.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pch.net; h= x-mailer:to:references:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:date :in-reply-to:from:subject:mime-version:content-type; s= secmail_dkim; t=1701596650; x=1704188651; bh=ZCl0B0DhuB+dUaNqpj6 h9cUJ1BIqbnpOXqlaz2iXSgk=; b=L3I5nma97ZwV8JtIdM5dnrcxGNQnTA6f0QF S6DAByQDF4C8UhVvSb2XGVujEzGYxqjICBE1SyI2AZkpmZHz5PwY9Jq7Fk/vyzaq ppQN7LMx/dY2zQQSqTgEh4SWEcDhwSQfzHkys/Jfqos0TciUSktUjV9yA3GUUYQb w4IP7BgR9gmRoqZz0uny/J9cwZj+RD0huk7Xt/tOBw3qcOxDvPMpg6J5PtKeFY/w hpeNXkg8IAxS/LU1s7Qx+zLWy5reOk9spGWoUpxU9ky0GIVdDzYERnq/OB1KJSy6 4nVxu/8ZGVl/97AKSV7gxGg4dJcv37zbJR/Pd649+Gh0fZ0uckA== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at secmail.pch.net Received: from secmail.pch.net ([127.0.0.1]) by secmail.pch.net (secmail.pch.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id LvUrFrDDwoSf for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2023 01:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (unknown [66.185.123.190]) by secmail.pch.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4SjhhT71mDz4xSZK; Sun, 3 Dec 2023 01:44:09 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_B6AA7F80-3DA3-4032-B415-C88D7A1D80C4"; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.200.91.1.1\)) From: Bill Woodcock In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2023 10:43:58 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <07CC415A-D934-464E-B807-DD0972D82628@pch.net> References: To: =?utf-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_as?= =?utf-8?Q?pects_heard_this_time!?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.200.91.1.1) Subject: Re: [NNagain] Kansas to build its first IXP X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2023 09:44:12 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B6AA7F80-3DA3-4032-B415-C88D7A1D80C4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Dec 2, 2023, at 21:08, Dave Taht via Nnagain = wrote: >=20 > This is wonderful. It hits all the high notes (accurately). The > interview also. Go Kansas!!! I=E2=80=99m curious what they=E2=80=99re planning to do with the = $4,992,000 that isn=E2=80=99t needed for the IXP. In general, radical over-spending on IXPs just scares away participants, = since they don=E2=80=99t know when the other shoe will drop, or why they = should trust someone who can=E2=80=99t exercise normal fiscal = management. -Bill --Apple-Mail=_B6AA7F80-3DA3-4032-B415-C88D7A1D80C4 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=smime.p7s Content-Type: application/pkcs7-signature; name=smime.p7s Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 MIAGCSqGSIb3DQEHAqCAMIACAQExDzANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFADCABgkqhkiG9w0BBwEAAKCCA24w ggNqMIICUqADAgECAgrA7NJadBOCNFD5MA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUAMGMxFjAUBgNVBAMTDUJpbGwg V29vZGNvY2sxHjAcBgNVBAoTFVBhY2tldCBDbGVhcmluZyBIb3VzZTEcMBoGCSqGSIb3DQEJARYN d29vZHlAcGNoLm5ldDELMAkGA1UEBhMCVVMwHhcNMjMxMTA3MDkxODQ3WhcNMjgxMTA3MDkxODQ3 WjBjMRYwFAYDVQQDEw1CaWxsIFdvb2Rjb2NrMR4wHAYDVQQKExVQYWNrZXQgQ2xlYXJpbmcgSG91 c2UxHDAaBgkqhkiG9w0BCQEWDXdvb2R5QHBjaC5uZXQxCzAJBgNVBAYTAlVTMIIBIjANBgkqhkiG 9w0BAQEFAAOCAQ8AMIIBCgKCAQEAyKjxKKsDg1tDYEZNuiQz6jVybmnJxXFKXGmNVsfqLYg850a+ 54QoLzZPGWIjqOQv8ttLHz35N9jNgOQCqvNdtiXxNPHh/tUv2ZKAFYhK2SsYMFRZk+nO+WiYd2YN XNnhkfjAOnzi6F3ZSRls/lgo3bijsYGJqlGZg70hqKg9KYQwuv8Y2gbDgZORQDjkH3AYKJO7xI1p xWzJGLvNM4ZEtP96PmPXIlsMrp6YE5IOOncmksqsviVmiiQ9+cARG0UfvWnCwqPc8nJAAfXRecnQ 66ESwsWCK/q8rHp7UMmVrB5HPFqXZ1HGfs/Y7VWo+fqJxUhHNJvzy1D2K1mhNI3pFQIDAQABoyAw HjAPBgkqhkiG9y8BAQoEAgUAMAsGA1UdDwQEAwIHgDANBgkqhkiG9w0BAQsFAAOCAQEAMB6GtiNf vLbig/NulzfLnzdyKkDC5mTZdh2i4LUFYbhI5JBQAGkrDYrI7INCNFV7jBBr04sA3KxT2eUCU6J4 LPlf/RwUNnIOOOgphXEWo+QJ7UCR0pXnY2n45s8u/b02k8b3+YCmlmo0oXLAIjc0dYW1IGWQ0nDT i921Lk/qizpCRy6niEsnRsxvvfJh0T4vVGk054H6ZrJwBz3uMEs7xUUhNDXXU09Euz5f+DEUNmJ+ SbylNvxFcGHFEZe+h1QAbQSE1FO5yWeSxCZpLpjcDrMWm/5B9vQT+mn22eNbnT2HWl7iiV4vRus9 /miHsTS4hPFvYCtQ0xBbzHk20eTkITGCAgcwggIDAgEBMHEwYzEWMBQGA1UEAxMNQmlsbCBXb29k Y29jazEeMBwGA1UEChMVUGFja2V0IENsZWFyaW5nIEhvdXNlMRwwGgYJKoZIhvcNAQkBFg13b29k eUBwY2gubmV0MQswCQYDVQQGEwJVUwIKwOzSWnQTgjRQ+TANBglghkgBZQMEAgEFAKBpMBgGCSqG SIb3DQEJAzELBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHAYJKoZIhvcNAQkFMQ8XDTIzMTIwMzA5NDM1OFowLwYJKoZI hvcNAQkEMSIEIMd5BzR0/16fm2smdTJj4fmTkYfmJvnTgUWFYYXYw1MRMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBCwUA BIIBAKuPN2j11WDR0rTpPeP6QTmtVAo2uTBCVPSr5329HTZgft3THuUSDTRfH4zTa6znw6fEzC5m dHsPMrHvvuOEwT/PCNSWJ51GJ3KwXkDQDYyupn72TUMFcsLn1ufvziaDwg7FAM4PPBWvDjYd6n49 Lv48x8xnO5FrRqkbn5XYLtOwDWS+IAUQoLxau2MEnDTXJqigGfxJbvMflO877eHjCESkEp/LPehF +1FDbLcU0RM3r3C9GB9yZJsLAtyWdGtDZzYIThKUM6gwp6Lv6CYhRqpsQaWzWkKsfFE8bJRP7wbJ vfqJBeaecXB1ny4qCbqbIq2/YHS7+TbtPlF62b37K3kAAAAAAAA= --Apple-Mail=_B6AA7F80-3DA3-4032-B415-C88D7A1D80C4--