From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 93D333B29D for ; Fri, 13 Oct 2023 16:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) by bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BBF561B258; Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:43:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bobcat.rjmcmahon.com BBF561B258 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rjmcmahon.com; s=bobcat; t=1697229833; bh=kVGYMK45qoVjqQQxkcmt73sUtN8iF/DWvfNXmZ3aJkQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=gp9MHwp41CXsj42uTB1SyTY+RZaURHKIX30CW9zzuGibjjOUrxCZ7XJ4lJNoRibLw SMBrNtwIWzUN6okg0aqhwPfrYmaphSQKQmHSZJl4f2YX4NkVSYT79mH2RdTDfIpJzn ZBQrQ3j69HrM4BZhbwX904Tl4LqbMI4WsAWreBMg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 13:43:53 -0700 From: rjmcmahon To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_a?= =?UTF-8?Q?spects_heard_this_time!?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0ddfc07c8caa7acc35018f730edf7950@rjmcmahon.com> X-Sender: rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [NNagain] some compelling rhetoric X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2023 20:43:54 -0000 Not sure of the goals with this, but it reads like misinformation and propaganda to me. The state of so-called "digital journalism" today is very sad. Hopefully, we'll find a way so quality journalism can rise to the top, created by journalists who get paid for publishing with integrity and aren't paid to produce propaganda (I know - wishful thinking - Elon Musk and all that.) History suggests we may have to wait awhile. Let's hope not. 1436 Gutenberg press invented 1517 Martin Luther posts his 95 Theses 1687 Newton's Principia is published https://cs.stanford.edu/people/eroberts/cs181/projects/2010-11/Journalism/index7f0d.html?page_id=16 The fact of the matter is that democracy requires informed citizens. No governing body can be expected to operate well without knowledge of the issues on which it is to rule, and rule by the people entails that the people should be informed. In a representative democracy, the role of the press is twofold: it both informs citizens and sets up a feedback loop between the government and voters. The press makes the actions of the government known to the public, and voters who disapprove of current trends in policy can take corrective action in the next election. Without the press, the feedback loop is broken and the government is no longer accountable to the people. The press is therefore of the utmost importance in a representative democracy. Another, related, function of the press is to expose people to opinions contrary to their own. This function is perhaps the most valuable in the Internet age; while people can in theory get information about the actions of their government from online sources, it is all too easy to find opinions online that match one’s own. Informed decision-making on the part of voters requires an awareness of multiple points of view, which is not likely to be obtained if voters bear the sole responsibility of seeking out information on relevant issues. The news media provide a forum for debates to take place, as well as moderating and curating the arguments presented by all sides. It is, of course, idealistic to suppose that media give equal, or even proportional, representation to all opinions, but the fact that many media outlets present themselves as nonpartisan sources of information makes them a better forum for debate than online sources such as blogs, which are typically maintained by one individual or a small group of people with similar opinions Bob > https://www.freepress.net/blog/what-net-neutrality > > It also contains a link to the proposed NPRM. > > I am however, under the impression that 2019-2022 bandwidths increased > by a lot, coverage was extended to more folk, and cell phones > subsidiezed by ACP kept a lot of people connected.