From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from secmail.pch.net (secmail.pch.net [206.220.231.87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 34BE33B2A4 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 06:00:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from secmail.pch.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by secmail.pch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TmQ9y1ccWz4xVVh for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 03:00:54 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: secmail.pch.net (amavisd-new); dkim=pass reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=pch.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pch.net; h= x-mailer:to:references:message-id:date:in-reply-to:from:subject :mime-version:content-type; s=secmail_dkim; t=1709290853; x= 1711882854; bh=esrvHlDEUX0h2h55VGUutTlq08XT/aXrYQnJ90lAGnc=; b=o cN4/6BfYrw+v54Wi8EtgwDS3oUVY+IRShhzHQOSh6tjeTdpG6/4K/JiBbQ8GVV/P kLPfXYAL/7q6VD1XO9Qa7mDvQTEeoEj64T9zvisTJ5vACuXByFm9MdLSs35krVg7 uLhiyp+SHxS7OnwwIqjrQG0Thte6Am/6F0GYildrpJ1ymPyae3DF+s26StM3yt0f BFtTQQKNf4wyCisfgMNZ6rrJe24Hfmdzde3Xs5lIB38WWwm7xBiusPIgpJkcJbe0 1Bi5y3NHBvH2jvzP/Vgp6TwKaXNrxnGwIJ/g+VQekx2euo21WgcyY/Ln+un/dLKK L9H6EhZEAgFCf72sJmjsw== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at secmail.pch.net Received: from secmail.pch.net ([127.0.0.1]) by secmail.pch.net (secmail.pch.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id YXwBStJN1JRM for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 03:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (itv-02 [69.166.14.6]) by secmail.pch.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4TmQ9x2Y5Vz4xVTZ; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 03:00:53 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_34C07404-9495-407E-8399-F62691593049"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.500.171.1.1\)) From: Bill Woodcock In-Reply-To: <13f504f19eb2d57e63d13e843606d2ad@rjmcmahon.com> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 06:00:51 -0500 Message-Id: <112BE76E-0AF5-4418-AF5D-7F3793C3F80B@pch.net> References: <13f504f19eb2d57e63d13e843606d2ad@rjmcmahon.com> To: =?utf-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_as?= =?utf-8?Q?pects_heard_this_time!?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.500.171.1.1) Subject: Re: [NNagain] Geoff Huston's panel X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2024 11:00:55 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_34C07404-9495-407E-8399-F62691593049 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Feb 29, 2024, at 23:02, rjmcmahon via Nnagain = wrote: > TV affiliates could have inserted their own ads but nationals (ABC, = CBS and NBC) had the copyright to the content. It wasn't technology that = stopped the affiliates but what came to be known as broadcast rights. = And lots of case law.=20 Back in the 2000-2005 timeframe, prior to HTTPS becoming ubiquitous, = there was a lot of work on local ad-replacement on the web, particularly = in countries that were receiving advertising primarily in languages = their users didn=E2=80=99t speak. That was also prior to most of the = per-user tracking and cache-busting, of course. -Bill --Apple-Mail=_34C07404-9495-407E-8399-F62691593049 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEm6XJ0FdpKWJHso4lb6RwSyiLf4cFAmXhtWMACgkQb6RwSyiL f4el8xAAovxiXd/WM85dgZpVXNzvZfrDvfQJGRRNFhARDNxu80R6D/aP0UqmxyVX 57xVln9v311PP0wJdtuQ1nWmOPQvJTW7xV/6SoW3C7VQR/aVBosM44XDCR5Eu8GC Mobq19l1tNZsMWHwTqg8srkz0D0Ujla2ZhkGAtbeIaBXfosBxlUfUfJ9pnVgAdqQ 6ZYs0dDPlj19wdsK3iC38UKKAL5Zkt5kgn9FuG6i2jlraC9WrP8M1BYm3R9fUQI4 vaRVGcR3AQSYaD/I4b9hh6R0H9273k/r/nDUW4rWmFXuGd+KShZsi6zoydSowQcm GlYXAfNkWXGpPBtsZkJ7UQC98VVlYDDe9t7bfgI16v0v6v0dGyT3m22XiyENe+dy YQm+FCIOzbz++Bm4bB67Z2y5hTdUubhjmFUlUIr5wnm7HoTTqP935n4LvMSFvRyi Hg1Od/84PV65OLRz5Na7u2TGPH4gIRXB2QirAJ9O76zuek9f6jcmCkkb/Qg7TZ8M yYs3ilc8qw9LDccp9LJoY1U7yt6rjtak0/U+dXiqFTaXHBLi7rgme33HgyysjR1g AuA2g1Oh1C2FBJSVz91ldkXYO9S2NIxEgxXDn/rkTpxx6lRIBcS5TDl4CNPrlJxV 08PzoFDxO62rNBgOHc7VXxwB5/poZ9Qjl1JFZ/QkgQB2PRQqQVQ= =jv3x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_34C07404-9495-407E-8399-F62691593049--