From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 704673CB40 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 09:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from oxusgaltgw03.schlund.de ([10.72.72.49]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus004 [172.19.143.1]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MwPs1-1r1Nvu2zSP-00sKvI for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 15:12:31 +0100 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 09:12:31 -0500 (EST) From: Tanya Weiman To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make?= =?UTF-8?Q?_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= Message-ID: <1469251091.1228524.1703427151591@email.ionos.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.10.6-Rev56 X-Originating-Client: com.openexchange.ox.gui.dhtml X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:i/AYLNdZOKDctz2R5DRUzkFS5INaoOXVh/gB2gzMRyxDBTZDwz9 4I5yyx7Hd0MPPvAqZiyxVIllIOg/hrw5vqR0KQTsUQZai95oAnjMHpt9aS7qmeRxbXCHggR M2Fj+srr6H7uIWhzX345DQmEd7J1VgMTVms+wTO9J5BgHNv5CuKRYqC6uTCI1AgW5yK7FDk fUcEHmC9cPVauq0K7lmhw== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:kiQLUpMy44g=;yLSIQnsSvEBh4frDxkT8w2568NL jcskitlDG3Uk2KKtUwXYwawEVOW6hikAFdHvzzFBD/z4T1xgNMFfZV6gOXdh9tFHmrPJ/FITI EzS784DC9yJFH5tLMyVUqeqlf+W5BlSXtQsumhP9XTia+Ka8sa+4Zx5AzEUl8olub6zpL81ue zqxzj8UwIp1IyWES0AqBbfTYFLR83c9ZKZjCm9YUTr1/aXBQxlm365BFcJBK40PXz7yXO16GF gKmeajmtN3+eDJlZ4Uis9Z2GVZtUKoC26Jew1Dq9o0IINEqeJ4ypcwHSnKEwSZAHFMJt3WqKr fLSm3SbBCXcs84qdEdH9PaJtnUTlwDoAhWy/SW6rD8howwmvUpLxyhpmZV9SczCNO+zZV+ZDO JO8GNIb1RstGJB0/qbVWfx0aAlOa0mqFHALMOarY97JBSR5FLRzAojSeSND1eX2ZrMq+W1ZVn V3YQSsjtXdbyI6axS7vvKQsGB5Jiaei/NIorPHHNXoqxReGq815G1+3vSeT4rWaSLl907OQmK fRrj3tQBC5Q3HCb+S5lU1V6pIlU2hgphuYWGnEWt8iC5oPfX9RBEMg5DwrpZXf2BJM0E2gEHj kYR3zooBbbbKKxLfXkNVZNzTbuKdnBEFBK6XhVPuxy9gRx7QDuIJjcaGX2ftgZzGpFxxj+L2X 2Nklb9gvoZEsr5idB1ov+0ypxLr2jjVTiGxHxJsk3p72UgB9SGQ88/KxiRDYBwKvDFRmUZ9Of MO5UWAA3FIOgAMgkpV7M7lJ6TxlzMUL20W8z0IlSxMSbY8l48J4wVCzkLYRJ8q6CVRX1FtD8w 6+9uGH1nulOmFmMXINsG4bYanLgjLbIXqTYhT05sjH55mqxipUEYPUva6Dv7oMMwoDAiVT35o IabiniM13Ka6v+g== Subject: Re: [NNagain] science and reading scores peaked in 2009 and 2012 X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:12:32 -0000 =20 =20
Merry Christmas (to everyone that celebrates) and Happy New Year!
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(And I'm looking forward to seeing "Maestro", part of the movie was film= ed in my neighborhood.)
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Cheers,
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Tanya :-)
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On 12/24/2023 9:05 AM EST Dave Taht via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
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Not that slashdot is a particularly good source, but I do read the atla= ntic...
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In my case I was just on two American planes where absolutely everyone
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was on their phone, tablet, or laptop. In one walk to the bathroom at
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the back of the plane, in the middle of the afternoon, there were
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three conversations going on, about 5% people working, the rest all
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watching a different show (not a single shared experience). I sat next
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to someone from an VR company that did project management there who
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spent the entire trip texting (with TWO phones) over the viasat
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service ($15/hr) to dozens and dozens of people. Max time off the
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phone was no more than 15 seconds, long enough to open a cracker. She
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seemed to never have an internet issue (though with all the
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multitasking perhaps the latencies were hidden). I finally got a word
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in edgewise on landing... I had great hope she knew what a packet was,
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but she didn=C2=B4t. She grokked "latency", had not heard of bufferbloa= t.
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The new movie Maestro is really excellent, btw. I watched some of it
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from between the seats ahead of me, with my head otherwise down trying
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to block out all the internet access around me.
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While I worry all the more about all we have done to humanity=C2=B4s
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ability to communicate physically and with strangers I wish y'all a
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merry christmas and a happy new year, with your families!
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40 years of net history, a couple songs:
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