From: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>
To: "Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects
heard this time!" <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [NNagain] On "Throttling" behaviors
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2023 18:09:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2B67FB81-1976-4DCE-9198-4CCCF13D9FFC@cable.comcast.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18af0df4e0b.edb34c95711106.5401229236188491451@phillywisper.net>
On 10/2/23, 10:51, "Nnagain on behalf of Mark Steckel via Nnagain" <nnagain-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:nnagain-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>> wrote:
> In both cases it is rational for the ISPs to favor this content over other content. This can be done by zero tier ratings, throttling, etc.
What I have observed in practice is the businesses of connectivity and content are separately run & tend to act with a very high degree of independence. To take the example of throttling - all that would do is (1) prompt customer contacts - driving cost to the ISP, or (2) prompt churn - also driving cost + reducing revenue. My personal view is that the whole notion of throttling streaming video (or whatever) is a non-issue to any large ISP. That is why I think there is consensus support for 'no throttling or blocking' in the ISP community.
> While there are numerous issues around NN, the core of it starts with whether the public and companies that use the Internet are entitled to transparent, fair and and equal access to the Internet.
That is likely why I think industry writ large agrees with the notion of no blocking/throttling/prioritization.
JL
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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-01 17:15 [NNagain] Some backstory on the nn-again mailing list Dave Taht
2023-10-01 18:56 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-10-01 19:51 ` [NNagain] On "Throttling" behaviors Dave Taht
2023-10-01 20:50 ` Dave Cohen
2023-10-01 22:01 ` Patrick Maupin
2023-10-02 1:34 ` dan
2023-10-02 7:28 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-02 16:29 ` dan
2023-10-04 7:30 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-02 15:30 ` Andy Ringsmuth
2023-10-02 18:28 ` Nathan Loofbourrow
2023-10-02 20:34 ` Colin_Higbie
2023-10-02 21:04 ` Dave Cohen
2023-10-02 21:07 ` rjmcmahon
2023-10-02 21:43 ` Colin_Higbie
2023-10-02 21:55 ` rjmcmahon
2023-10-03 19:29 ` Colin_Higbie
2023-10-03 19:45 ` rjmcmahon
2023-10-04 0:57 ` David Lang
2023-10-03 7:50 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-03 8:10 ` Karl Auerbach
2023-10-03 14:41 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-03 15:34 ` dan
2023-10-03 16:54 ` rjmcmahon
2023-10-03 17:55 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-03 18:09 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-10-03 18:14 ` dan
2023-10-03 19:44 ` Dick Roy
2023-10-03 18:10 ` dan
2023-10-03 19:23 ` rjmcmahon
2023-10-04 1:05 ` David Lang
2023-10-04 0:39 ` David Lang
2023-10-03 20:26 ` Colin_Higbie
2023-10-03 21:40 ` dan
2023-10-04 15:56 ` Colin_Higbie
2023-10-04 17:45 ` David Lang
2023-10-05 20:24 ` Livingood, Jason
2023-10-05 22:17 ` Dick Roy
2023-10-05 22:47 ` Jeremy Austin
2023-10-05 22:53 ` Dave Cohen
2023-10-06 15:56 ` Dick Roy
2023-10-06 15:58 ` rjmcmahon
2023-10-04 17:59 ` rjmcmahon
2023-10-04 19:26 ` Dick Roy
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2023-10-05 8:44 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-05 19:07 ` David Lang
2023-10-03 23:17 ` Mark Steckel
2023-10-04 7:51 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-02 6:48 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-02 13:43 ` Livingood, Jason
2023-10-02 14:51 ` Mark Steckel
2023-10-02 18:09 ` Livingood, Jason [this message]
2023-10-02 18:15 ` Patrick Maupin
2023-10-02 19:18 ` Dick Roy
2023-10-02 6:34 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-02 13:27 ` Livingood, Jason
2023-10-02 6:06 ` [NNagain] Some backstory on the nn-again mailing list Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-02 12:36 ` Bless, Roland (TM)
2023-10-03 7:15 ` Sebastian Moeller
2023-10-02 20:18 [NNagain] On "Throttling" behaviors Livingood, Jason
2023-10-02 20:28 ` Dick Roy
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