From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from secmail.pch.net (secmail.pch.net [206.220.231.87]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 960213CB37 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 19:03:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from secmail.pch.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by secmail.pch.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Tgqwl0HJhz4xVVJ for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 16:03:35 -0800 (PST) Authentication-Results: secmail.pch.net (amavisd-new); dkim=pass reason="pass (just generated, assumed good)" header.d=pch.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=pch.net; h= x-mailer:to:references:message-id:date:in-reply-to:from:subject :mime-version:content-type; s=secmail_dkim; t=1708646614; x= 1711238615; bh=QV8b9UY5LPFAjnEq76XZj8x/K8u7pFiZ7kXAS1tlBdw=; b=G nLpKshgSJ+NtKIV8l1xeMM1M9Krw+eLTqtdRSNrOULLrEAOlyly+2woNnWi1mgHO PdlRksebdW+I0hz1zI/YpOMZb8PB1HC0rTn9Nwm4Ff7e2/jIqIFUQknKBv+VYMUo M1yspNL9iD5XRQHG5LAPOklgS5t3/XnVXr9gu0cPO0lUybCo9RfuQLWtySu+Mz5E bEAVsHsCuTF5WVGKNEDJyR33jGEUUnC+X0Lg1Bz/i92neJLvuj8H+TLZ64GmPCyH HoWXIflw0tgvNZF4alfLuRp0AuZEYVdNJNtr3B1IY5eaSxQq/IEqAQeqe5K2Jm+d edcv7qhHfHliFpZiEL+FA== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at secmail.pch.net Received: from secmail.pch.net ([127.0.0.1]) by secmail.pch.net (secmail.pch.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id 32tJTPgwjbRo for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 16:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (itv-02 [69.166.14.6]) by secmail.pch.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Tgqwk06vdz4xVTj; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 16:03:33 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_28E0E546-8078-4F77-9E24-D56EFF165609"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.500.171.1.1\)) From: Bill Woodcock In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 01:03:31 +0100 Message-Id: <4005F8F2-9D98-49AB-A993-02DD7ED7291A@pch.net> References: <5FD342B1-F329-4DDF-A0DA-6ED02B17D164@pch.net> To: =?utf-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_as?= =?utf-8?Q?pects_heard_this_time!?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.500.171.1.1) Subject: Re: [NNagain] Cellular outage in US hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users, Downdetector shows + Cyberattacks on hospitals are likely to increase, putting lives at risk, experts warn X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 00:03:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_28E0E546-8078-4F77-9E24-D56EFF165609 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Feb 23, 2024, at 00:42, Vint Cerf via Nnagain = wrote: > Could some non-ATT outages be people trying to reach ATT destinations? Yes, I think it=E2=80=99s very well established at this point that there = were no associated simultaneous outages in any other networks, and that = all of the =E2=80=9Cdowndetector=E2=80=9D things were just, as you say, = people elsewhere trying to reach AT&T customers. -Bill --Apple-Mail=_28E0E546-8078-4F77-9E24-D56EFF165609 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEm6XJ0FdpKWJHso4lb6RwSyiLf4cFAmXX4NMACgkQb6RwSyiL f4d0QxAAyj/iiuYvIIttDncjWGuRp8J8rZhIXJSlsXgCGCsemMp30CeCTYwsP68k bMSfkQ6pC1Yg52h0hauT8mXN1dk7cIyBTK0CQaf2ABspKULffgJSt7RXlmkGUX7J QAQLqGIsRVkW3n8FBKntB3jn7lvQuh6ZiBlUFcySvsz5k/QrAu0ShzHGAIFyFX6F l+CM3DzP/2Ji+uv8JR/x84zNfHtFI+QA3NzRFBNFUo1+zb1Y267S2NF+Vzy/qFRO mT9eTMPEquBYnxiCAHJ1spT0hf+52OhH9CVJ13akaFpmjoWpYwu3hMnqEceqfa8p /9BM4QLwayWAAymDh+UEbbWefx5+kcdVOKoXqA/B9pPlr/iuhWJCuk7VyQxijoof Bz5vBv9usl+9SQEcT4r8x5xxR/5KcIbHXx81poYTkToF9FVJpRiRu9q93RIhykEh xUNvqGSP7B1K3pZsCDV8iXUlg0nIWextc7PrPhLBtOfbd2znma27fIRRi+79VDdY nJTuu6IF88XFnIXhCKsMlRlRtTRMXrCppjx8hpOu5lvoVZQr4C2nXVt0f7BqsBwn vKNq2vCCxYZgDKHGirpF0/DMwzIMALjW+VH0OyQtZUbeC920Y9wIsF1+Y5hO3t5x L3845dlWlB2Qma/3rRkGj1JlOruT0rD3TxDHvBJyL4qWLNtS6CU= =QCcb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_28E0E546-8078-4F77-9E24-D56EFF165609--