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From: Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net>
To: "Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects
	heard this time!" <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [NNagain] Cellular outage in US hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users, Downdetector shows + Cyberattacks on hospitals are likely to increase, putting lives at risk, experts warn
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 22:24:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5FD342B1-F329-4DDF-A0DA-6ED02B17D164@pch.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw6SJkgZTUxxb5Tc_WDJgWeH6q8u1gPAxEuj33UREvEeiw@mail.gmail.com>

I have not seen any credible evidence of any networks other than AT&T being involved.  

The rumors of something to do with a SIM database don’t explain all the PRI trunks down, but those predated the mobile outages, so it might be two unrelated issues. 
    
                -Bill


> On Feb 22, 2024, at 10:12 PM, Dave Taht via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 3:52 PM David Bray, PhD via Nnagain
> <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/cellular-outage-in-us-hits-at-t-t-mobile-and-verizon-users-downdetector-shows/ar-BB1iHBMF
> 
> I had feared this was the natural outgrowth of the devastating DNS
> KEYTRAP attack that was announced yesterday:
> https://www.darkreading.com/cloud-security/keytrap-dns-bug-threatens-widespread-internet-outages
> 
> But so far the bet on nanog is that "oops, cisco deleted the sim database."
> 
> I think they are being snarky about "the" sim database. I´m pretty
> sure they are just being snarky...
> 
>> A cellular outage in the United States was reported by AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon and other network users on Thursday, according to outage tracking website Downdetector.com.
>> 
>> The number of reports of AT&T outages peaked at 31,931 at around 4:30 a.m. ET, data from Downdetector, which tracks outages by collating status reports from sources including user-submitted errors on its platform, showed.
>> 
>> More than 800 service outages of U.S. wireless carriers Verizon and T-Mobile were also reported on the platform.
>> 
>> Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T did not immediately reply to Reuters' requests for comment.
>> 
>> And this -  I was just on a call where it's clear this is increasing: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/cyberattacks-on-hospitals-are-likely-to-increase-putting-lives-at-risk-experts-warn/ar-BB1ihhll
>> 
>> WASHINGTON (AP) — Cybersecurity experts are warning that hospitals around the country are at risk for attacks like the one that is crippling operations at a premier Midwestern children's hospital, and that the U.S. government is doing too little prevent such breaches.
>> 
>> Hospitals in recent years have shifted their use of online technology to support everything from telehealth to medical devices to patient records. Today, they are a favorite target for internet thieves who hold systems' data and networks hostage for hefty ransoms, said John Riggi, the American Hospital Association’s cybersecurity adviser.
>> 
>> --
>> David Bray, PhD Principal, LeadDoAdapt Ventures, Inc.
>> Loomis Innovation Council Co-Chair & Distinguished Fellow
>> Henry S. Stimson Center, Business Executives for National Security
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-22 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2024-02-22 20:51 ` David Bray, PhD
2024-02-22 21:11   ` Dave Taht
2024-02-22 21:24     ` Bill Woodcock [this message]
2024-02-22 23:39       ` the keyboard of geoff goodfellow
2024-02-22 23:42         ` Vint Cerf
2024-02-23  0:03           ` Bill Woodcock
2024-02-23 15:41             ` Dave Taht
2024-02-22 21:37     ` le berger des photons
2024-02-23 19:31       ` David Bray, PhD

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