From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.pch.net (keriomail.pch.net [206.220.231.84]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 81D823CB37 for ; Thu, 22 Feb 2024 16:25:25 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=pch.net; s=mail; h=from:subject:date:message-id:to:cc:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references; bh=rWUrDwbNvWdGmaFPBnHNM+up6u0miH33IjmR/IaFZkg=; b=aBRc7N2olrJDxDSV16e6qoGEYknf9Rrpe/nSNYvwbULq1yDVvZyuJr4rsIjqVW8Af+Zfzl5BewLKY vHUKE4rEztohnEjavwi/r15BFGygeZ5PhUXas6OFjkRs2unJ0396ObEVu+SH8tBZKWkGmRtybHUoUG sK4TeARXjdizSNURtK7+070EP+Dh0FHfnY/dA6rBLHW33s1BO6u4gosrexxJt/52AojqOfNiI/RyOi W0gpgDR5t9xZmWW70Xm71LmgQ8tHTou35+r/ylkFj05OkMsTmYfiiTeW0PiEYS0X4zrLYgWRBiV+Ij aHAmM0HfheZwnJnRZcu6e4p1IrEIxEw== X-Footer: cGNoLm5ldA== Received: from smtpclient.apple ([69.166.14.6]) by mail.pch.net (Kerio Connect 9.2.7 patch 3) with ESMTPS (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256 bits)); Thu, 22 Feb 2024 13:25:21 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) From: Bill Woodcock In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 22:24:53 +0100 Message-Id: <5FD342B1-F329-4DDF-A0DA-6ED02B17D164@pch.net> References: To: =?utf-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_techni?= =?utf-8?Q?cal_aspects_heard_this_time!?= X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (21C66) Subject: Re: [NNagain] Cellular outage in US hits AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon users, Downdetector shows + Cyberattacks on hospitals are likely to increase, putting lives at risk, experts warn X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2024 21:25:25 -0000 I have not seen any credible evidence of any networks other than AT&T being i= nvolved. =20 The rumors of something to do with a SIM database don=E2=80=99t explain all t= he PRI trunks down, but those predated the mobile outages, so it might be tw= o unrelated issues.=20 =20 -Bill > On Feb 22, 2024, at 10:12=E2=80=AFPM, Dave Taht via Nnagain wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 3:52=E2=80=AFPM David Bray, PhD via Nnaga= in > wrote: >>=20 >> https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/technology/cellular-outage-in-us-hits-at-= t-t-mobile-and-verizon-users-downdetector-shows/ar-BB1iHBMF >=20 > I had feared this was the natural outgrowth of the devastating DNS > KEYTRAP attack that was announced yesterday: > https://www.darkreading.com/cloud-security/keytrap-dns-bug-threatens-wides= pread-internet-outages >=20 > But so far the bet on nanog is that "oops, cisco deleted the sim database.= " >=20 > I think they are being snarky about "the" sim database. I=C2=B4m pretty > sure they are just being snarky... >=20 >> A cellular outage in the United States was reported by AT&T, T-Mobile, Ve= rizon and other network users on Thursday, according to outage tracking webs= ite Downdetector.com. >>=20 >> The number of reports of AT&T outages peaked at 31,931 at around 4:30 a.m= . ET, data from Downdetector, which tracks outages by collating status repor= ts from sources including user-submitted errors on its platform, showed. >>=20 >> More than 800 service outages of U.S. wireless carriers Verizon and T-Mob= ile were also reported on the platform. >>=20 >> Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T did not immediately reply to Reuters' requests= for comment. >>=20 >> And this - I was just on a call where it's clear this is increasing: htt= ps://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/cyberattacks-on-hospitals-are-like= ly-to-increase-putting-lives-at-risk-experts-warn/ar-BB1ihhll >>=20 >> WASHINGTON (AP) =E2=80=94 Cybersecurity experts are warning that hospital= s around the country are at risk for attacks like the one that is crippling o= perations at a premier Midwestern children's hospital, and that the U.S. gov= ernment is doing too little prevent such breaches. >>=20 >> Hospitals in recent years have shifted their use of online technology to s= upport everything from telehealth to medical devices to patient records. Tod= ay, they are a favorite target for internet thieves who hold systems' data a= nd networks hostage for hefty ransoms, said John Riggi, the American Hospita= l Association=E2=80=99s cybersecurity adviser. >>=20 >> -- >> David Bray, PhD Principal, LeadDoAdapt Ventures, Inc. >> Loomis Innovation Council Co-Chair & Distinguished Fellow >> Henry S. Stimson Center, Business Executives for National Security >> _______________________________________________ >> Nnagain mailing list >> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > 40 years of net history, a couple songs: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DD9RGX6QFm5E > Dave T=C3=A4ht CSO, LibreQos > _______________________________________________ > Nnagain mailing list > Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain