From: rjmcmahon <rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com>
To: "Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects
heard this time!" <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [NNagain] The FCC 2024 Section 706 Report, GN Docket No. 22-270 is out!
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 14:00:56 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <69133641c96091ed047e6bf11a2ff5d7@rjmcmahon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <766106EC-9F2B-4440-B7A6-5AA483EF45F0@comcast.com>
> Interesting blog post on the latency part at
> https://broadbandbreakfast.com/untitled-12/.
>
> Looking at the FCC draft report, page 73, Figure 24 – I find it sort
> of ridiculous that the table describes things as “Low Latency
> Service” available or not. That is because they seem to really
> misunderstand the notion of working latency. The table instead seems
> to classify any network with idle latency <100 ms to be low latency
> – which as Dave and others close to bufferbloat know is silly. Lots
> of these networks that are in this report classified as low latency
> would in fact have working latencies of 100s to 1,000s of milliseconds
> – far from low latency.
>
> I looked at FCC MBA platform data from the last 6 months and here are
> the latency under load stats, 99th percentile for a selection of ten
> ISPs:
> ISP A 2470 ms
>
> ISP B 2296 ms
>
> ISP C 2281 ms
>
> ISP D 2203 ms
>
> ISP E 2070 ms
>
> ISP F 1716 ms
>
> ISP G 1468 ms
>
> ISP H 965 ms
>
> ISP I 909 ms
>
> ISP J 896 ms
>
> Jason
It does seem like there is a lot of confusion around idle latency vs
working latency. Another common error is to conflate round trip time as
two "one way delays." OWD & RTT are different metrics and both have
utility. (all of this, including working-loads, is supported in iperf 2
- https://iperf2.sourceforge.io/iperf-manpage.html - so there is free
tooling out there that can help.)
Bob
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2024-02-27 21:06 Livingood, Jason
2024-02-27 22:00 ` rjmcmahon [this message]
2024-02-27 23:17 ` Jack Haverty
2024-02-27 23:41 ` Jeremy Austin
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2024-02-26 15:06 Dave Taht
2024-02-26 19:24 ` Jack Haverty
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