Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!
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From: Robert McMahon <rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com>
To: Sauli Kiviranta via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [NNagain] The Verge: The quiet plan to make the internet feel	faster
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2023 10:21:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <826a0d77-b6b8-423d-a094-93d75840fa90@rjmcmahon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJbqEYAbAntNZTB-eH+gkjgHjFeh8DL-kFkJKcO-UzcmtE=dkQ@mail.gmail.com>

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Sorry, this isn't a very good technical analysis. It's a push agenda for AQM. I get that many people's egos are tied to their belief that my algorithm came down from God himself. It's not true though.


⁣Bob

On Dec 10, 2023, 3:12 AM, at 3:12 AM, Sauli Kiviranta via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>I find it alarming for the future of internet that there is a trend to
>use elbowing techniques to squeeze metrics out at the expense of all
>other flows. We know that when nobody plays fair the arms race ends
>badly.
>
>Best regards,
>Sauli
>
>On 12/10/23, Frantisek Borsik via Nnagain
><nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> Well, to be completely honest, I would say its about general public,
>really
>> - it’s an article in The Verge :-)
>>
>> But yeah. Here’s something they should address:
>>
>> https://github.com/heistp/l4s-tests#key-findings
>>
>> In general - a potential harm to innocent bystanders is a biggest L4S
>> problem:
>>
>https://www.linkedin.com/posts/frantisekborsik_jonathanmorton-l4s-ietf118-activity-7128317873571176448-GWAX
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Frank
>> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik
>>
>> https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik
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>>
>>
>> On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 at 5:48 AM, Matt Mathis via Nnagain <
>> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>>> About L4S
>>>
>>>
>https://www.theverge.com/23655762/l4s-internet-apple-comcast-latency-speed-bandwidth
>>>
>>> It says something about their target audience that they feel they
>need to
>>> explain bytes vs bits.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> --MM--
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>force
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-10 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-10  4:48 Matt Mathis
2023-12-10  6:54 ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-10 11:12   ` Sauli Kiviranta
2023-12-10 18:21     ` Robert McMahon [this message]
2023-12-11  9:50       ` Frantisek Borsik
     [not found]         ` <4C2CA220-A7EF-4198-BE6C-A2FC979A1F8D@gmx.de>
2023-12-11 10:18           ` Frantisek Borsik
     [not found]             ` <E96CB707-1BDE-48F6-A09F-2229FDBA372A@gmx.de>
2023-12-11 19:33               ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-11 14:54         ` Livingood, Jason
2023-12-11 18:51           ` rjmcmahon
2023-12-11 19:25             ` Frantisek Borsik
2023-12-11 15:13       ` Livingood, Jason
2023-12-11 14:56 ` Livingood, Jason

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