From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 75CEA3CB37 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 14:09:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.rjmcmahon.com (bobcat.rjmcmahon.com [45.33.58.123]) by bobcat.rjmcmahon.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 891F01B258; Sun, 24 Dec 2023 11:09:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 bobcat.rjmcmahon.com 891F01B258 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rjmcmahon.com; s=bobcat; t=1703444950; bh=VvOVGZPlYspXMnXB+Cp/pBYktf5hFRFflu8/FuBBeYQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=c8niGa5i61JXqQN8ye8IUH/OnASPK0h8vD8DoF9zlt/cJBRdOeXUOn9ertv7DIXw6 l3acpoqWh17x09FJ4F3Ka9ufxj0CVF2gTn24L5nx3PZALfqPE4U7YBayA+shH86vSe hzuh/TXKKZTg3KwFHp50wZr8ffbnMuHWOrYzBd10= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 11:09:10 -0800 From: rjmcmahon To: =?UTF-8?Q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_a?= =?UTF-8?Q?spects_heard_this_time!?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <90af82cb117d06391af330cf993a0192@rjmcmahon.com> X-Sender: rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [NNagain] science and reading scores peaked in 2009 and 2012 X-BeenThere: nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: =?utf-8?q?Network_Neutrality_is_back!_Let=C2=B4s_make_the_technical_aspects_heard_this_time!?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 19:09:11 -0000 Hi Dave, Merry Christmas! It think you're right in that connection is a fundamental need for all mammals, including humans. The internet and devise aren't the source of the issues you describe. It's more likely addiction. Maybe play these videos on the plane. https://youtu.be/oyvFVsTUQS8?feature=shared The antidote to addiction is compassion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11U0h0DPu7k The internet can be a vehicle towards supporting others. It's really our choice on how we each spend 86,400 given per day. Spending some of it on connection with family & friends can be hard for many. I hope we each spend it that way today! https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/638920-imagine-there-is-a-bank-account-that-credits-your-account “Imagine there is a bank account that credits your account each morning with $86,400. It carries over no balance from day to day. Every evening the bank deletes whatever part of the balance you failed to used during the day. What would you do? Draw out every cent, of course? Each of us has such a bank, it's name is time. Every morning, it credits you 86,400 seconds. Every night it writes off at a lost, whatever of this you failed to invest to a good purpose. It carries over no balance. It allows no over draft. Each day it opens a new account for you. Each night it burns the remains of the day. If you fail to use the day's deposits, the loss is yours. There is no drawing against "tomorrow". You must live in the present on today's deposits. Invest it so as to get from it the utmost in health, happiness, and health. The clock is running. Make the most of today.” Bob > Not that slashdot is a particularly good source, but I do read the > atlantic... > > https://news.slashdot.org/story/23/12/23/0544206/are-phones-making-the-worlds-students-dumber > > In my case I was just on two American planes where absolutely everyone > was on their phone, tablet, or laptop. In one walk to the bathroom at > the back of the plane, in the middle of the afternoon, there were > three conversations going on, about 5% people working, the rest all > watching a different show (not a single shared experience). I sat next > to someone from an VR company that did project management there who > spent the entire trip texting (with TWO phones) over the viasat > service ($15/hr) to dozens and dozens of people. Max time off the > phone was no more than 15 seconds, long enough to open a cracker. She > seemed to never have an internet issue (though with all the > multitasking perhaps the latencies were hidden). I finally got a word > in edgewise on landing... I had great hope she knew what a packet was, > but she didn´t. She grokked "latency", had not heard of bufferbloat. > > The new movie Maestro is really excellent, btw. I watched some of it > from between the seats ahead of me, with my head otherwise down trying > to block out all the internet access around me. > > While I worry all the more about all we have done to humanity´s > ability to communicate physically and with strangers I wish y'all a > merry christmas and a happy new year, with your families!